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    • CandyCupcake
    • By CandyCupcake 7th Feb 18, 7:17 PM
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    What am I doing wrong?
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    • 7th Feb 18, 7:17 PM
    What am I doing wrong? 7th Feb 18 at 7:17 PM
    Hi,

    We've recently had a multi fuel stove fitted, and I was looking forward to having a toasty warm room. But this is yet to happen

    I've seen online numerous times people saying they can get their room so warm that it's too warm, but I must say our room is definitely not that warm!

    We've tried burning just logs, just coal and mixture of the two but to no avail.

    Any hints / tips would be greatly appreciated!

    TIA.

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    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 7th Feb 18, 10:05 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 10:05 PM
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    • 7th Feb 18, 10:05 PM
    My little 5kW stove can heat the downstairs of the house very easily. When the central heating broke down, it was my main heating for the whole house, but that meant burning it for hours on end.

    When I first got it, I really struggled. I could barely get anything to burn, and the glass went brown and tarry every time I used it. The main problem was bad firewood.

    Logs must be dry and properly seasoned. The ones bought in nets are often damp and/or barely seasoned. Bad logs aren't even worth the effort of trying to burn them.

    Wood I scrounge myself is seasoned for two years. If I buy wood, I buy in the spring and keep it for another summer.

    Get or make a log store, making sure it's well ventilated. Try to keep a few days' worth of logs indoors, so any surface damp can dry off.

    As a back-up, the "heat logs" made from compressed sawdust burn easily and with a lot of heat. Shop around, and prefer ones that look like they have been painted with dark wood stain (as they are more compressed).

    Read the stove manual. Learn where the air vents are, and how to use them. When starting out, use plenty of newspaper and kindling to get the fire going. Put on small and/or split logs. Only gradually work up to full-size logs. Keep the air vents wide open until the fire is blazing away, and then slowly close them. Once you have a really good bed of glowing embers, any further logs should burn easier. But if they seem to be putting the fire out, open the vents again.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 8th Feb 18, 9:28 AM
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    • #3
    • 8th Feb 18, 9:28 AM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 9:28 AM
    Hi,

    We've recently had a multi fuel stove fitted, and I was looking forward to having a toasty warm room. But this is yet to happen

    I've seen online numerous times people saying they can get their room so warm that it's too warm, but I must say our room is definitely not that warm!

    We've tried burning just logs, just coal and mixture of the two but to no avail.

    Any hints / tips would be greatly appreciated!

    TIA.
    Originally posted by CandyCupcake
    Stove temperature is key to success. Go out and buy a stove thermometer which you attach to the pipe. I find that with a stove chimney temperature below 160C, wood will just smolder. Once 160C is exceeded, then the chimney just draws air through the wood and the stove works like a dream.

    Two other tips that my installer left me with. One, preheat the chimney using loosely bundled paper and no wood. Two, make sure that the fire sits on a layer of ash ( I appreciate that this isn't always possible)
    • brewerdave
    • By brewerdave 8th Feb 18, 10:48 AM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 10:48 AM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 10:48 AM
    Agree wholeheartedly with post #2 ; we initially had problems with our little log burner til I bought a pallet of kiln dried logs - now it lights with minimum effort and throws out plenty of heat even tho its only rated at 4kW.
    We use a firelighter and some kindling to get it drawing then use smaller logs initially.
    • CandyCupcake
    • By CandyCupcake 8th Feb 18, 11:26 AM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 11:26 AM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 11:26 AM
    Thanks everyone for your advise!


    Our stove is 8kw and we use kiln dried logs and smokeless coal.


    We can get it lit no problem, no tar / smoke and the immediate surrounding of the stove is hot. But it just doesn't seem to throw it out and warm the room temperature up until it's been on for hours. Is this normal? I must admit the manual that came with the stove is pretty vague, so I've been looking around a lot on line, and feel like I've followed all the right rules but to no avail. I was looking forward to this 'having to hang your head out of the window it's so hot' heat, but not happened yet


    I will definitely purchase a thermometer as we currently don't have one.

    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 8th Feb 18, 7:59 PM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 7:59 PM
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    • 8th Feb 18, 7:59 PM
    You could try getting one of the stove-top fans. I haven't got room for one, as the stove is wedged into a fireplace. But I know someone who has and it works quite well.

    They don't require any power source, other than the heat from the stove. A thermopile inside the body generates power to run the electric fan.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 7:07 AM
    It sounds as if your fire isn't burning stuff optimally, for whatever reason.

    We had an old back boiler Aarrow multifuel, rated at around 8kW, which we could rarely get up to a really good temperature. Once we had the chance, we disconnected the water and ran the thing dry, which certainly improved things a lot, but because of old seals it was never as controllable as we wanted and the chimney wasn't lined either. It got through a lot of logs!

    Fast forward to now, with a slightly enlarged living room, no Aga next door pre-heating the kitchen/diner, a 5kW Woodwarm on a lined 5" flue and we're largely heated just by that in the two principal rooms. Heat also drifts to other areas of our bungalow, so the oil boiler does a lot less work. Right now, I'm sitting two rooms away from the fire, its freezing outside and there are no radiators on at all.

    So, if your logs are OK and your house is relatively well insulated, draughtproofed etc I'd look at the quality of your fire and the chimney arrangement you have. I know we've had mild winters here in the past few years, but sorting out the fire really has made a huge difference to our comfort and overall fuel bills. (We do get most of our wood 'free.')
    'A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they'll never sit in.'
    • firefox1956
    • By firefox1956 9th Feb 18, 10:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 10:07 AM
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    • 9th Feb 18, 10:07 AM
    Sounds to me like the OP is not giving the stove enough draught.
    If you are burning smokeless fuel once it is lit give it plenty of BOTTOM draught.
    I can get my stove from cold to very very hot in a matter of maybe 10 minutes.........
    Stove thermometers here cheap enough.....
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stove-Pipe-Magnetic-Thermometer-Wood-Log-Burning-Fire-Flue-Heater-Temp-Gauge/301329485102?epid=22011495849&hash=item4628a30d2e: g:Zv8AAOSwj1hadLbD
    Plenty of how to videos on Youtube probably worth a look at
    HTH
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