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    • peppapig14
    • By peppapig14 6th Feb 18, 3:33 PM
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    Trigger of universal claim
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    • 6th Feb 18, 3:33 PM
    Trigger of universal claim 6th Feb 18 at 3:33 PM
    I currently only claim child tax and tax credits. I live in a full univesal credit area.Please can anyone advise me if the below will be classed as a change of circumstance and end my tax credits and move me to universal credit:?
    1: child care costs increases by £40 monthly
    2: I move address from private rented to mortgaged property ( currently looking to purchase a house ) in the same local authority area.
    3: as question 2 but within a different local authority area
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    • BorisThomson
    • By BorisThomson 6th Feb 18, 3:58 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 3:58 PM
    This is the fifth time you have asked the same question. Please refer to your previous threads for answers.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 6th Feb 18, 5:12 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 5:12 PM
    I currently only claim child tax and tax credits. I live in a full univesal credit area.Please can anyone advise me if the below will be classed as a change of circumstance and end my tax credits and move me to universal credit:?
    1: child care costs increases by £40 monthly
    2: I move address from private rented to mortgaged property ( currently looking to purchase a house ) in the same local authority area.
    3: as question 2 but within a different local authority area
    Originally posted by peppapig14
    As previously asked the same question here. Take a look back and see the replies. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5783290
    • peppapig14
    • By peppapig14 6th Feb 18, 5:45 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 5:45 PM
    Apologies for repeating my original posts, the reason being I have had a meeting with citizens advice bureau and a universal credit officer and they have said there is no actual way of knowing if my tax credit would end and trigger and trigger a universal credit claim as it'" luck of the draw" of who assess your claim. Some advisors would say a chamge of address is ok, some would say as you have moved from rented to mortgaged then it would trigger a uc claim.
    I'm looking for experiences of people to see generally what their experiences has been
    ghanks
    • _shel
    • By _shel 6th Feb 18, 7:02 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 7:02 PM
    Apologies for repeating my original posts, the reason being I have had a meeting with citizens advice bureau and a universal credit officer and they have said there is no actual way of knowing if my tax credit would end and trigger and trigger a universal credit claim as it'" luck of the draw" of who assess your claim. Some advisors would say a chamge of address is ok, some would say as you have moved from rented to mortgaged then it would trigger a uc claim.
    I'm looking for experiences of people to see generally what their experiences has been
    ghanks
    Originally posted by peppapig14
    What other people have gone through is not relevant unless their circumstances are identical to yours.

    Nothing is luck of the draw on who looks at your claim. Itís laid out in law what is considered a change to trigger a move.
    Thanks to everyone who posts competitions
    • peppapig14
    • By peppapig14 6th Feb 18, 8:12 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 8:12 PM
    Thank you for your all your replis.
    I was astonished when the citizens advice officer said "luck of the draw". I'm really just after any one to advise if a change if address is definately a trigger, as I'm getting different answers from the forum to the official officers
    • micky2phones
    • By micky2phones 6th Feb 18, 9:16 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 9:16 PM
    Thank you for your all your replis.
    I was astonished when the citizens advice officer said "luck of the draw". I'm really just after any one to advise if a change if address is definately a trigger, as I'm getting different answers from the forum to the official officers
    Originally posted by peppapig14
    Hi, sorry i dont know the answer, but could the " luck of the draw " be base on the people they have seen and not the set rules ?

    Just an idea
    • Ames
    • By Ames 6th Feb 18, 9:23 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 9:23 PM
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    'luck of the draw' might mean whether or not the DWP get things right first time or if you have to appeal. The laws are what count though and the decision makers don't sit around rolling dice to see what law they apply to which claimant. I'd be very worried about a CAB that said that.

    We have seen on these boards mistakes made by the DWP. It's all a bit chaotic at the moment with UC.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
    • Icequeen99
    • By Icequeen99 6th Feb 18, 10:37 PM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:37 PM
    Thank you for your all your replis.
    I was astonished when the citizens advice officer said "luck of the draw". I'm really just after any one to advise if a change if address is definately a trigger, as I'm getting different answers from the forum to the official officers
    Originally posted by peppapig14
    It is not luck of the draw - there is legislation that sets out when a claim for tax credit ends. A tax credit claim can only end and be replaced by UC in 3 situations:

    1. The claimant chooses to claim UC instead (in a full service area)
    2. The claimant needs to claim another benefit that UC has replaced such as housing benefit - that would end the tax credit claim
    3. There is a change of circumstances that ends the tax credit claim - those are the normal changes of circumstances that end tax credit claims. A change of address is not one of them.

    IQ
    • huckster
    • By huckster 7th Feb 18, 6:54 AM
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    Given that at some point 7 million+ people will be on UC, why not sign up to a benefits calculator such as Turn2us or Entitled To and see whether it might be an option that is worth pursuing.

    The whole point of UC is that it is a benefit that can be adjusted over the years to take into account changing circumstances. E.g if your work earnings reduce because of employment problems, ill health, you have children etc. Think about any changes that might occur over the years, where having a UC claim running might be useful.

    If you have legacy benefits and don't need to move to UC, it might not be worth it. Each person has different current circumstances and different future issues that affect the choices they make.
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