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    • kittennose
    • By kittennose 5th Feb 18, 6:24 PM
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    New car delivered with a fault
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    • 5th Feb 18, 6:24 PM
    New car delivered with a fault 5th Feb 18 at 6:24 PM
    Looking for help

    Less than 2 weeks ago I purchased a car from a reputable garage, all done online, paid by BACS and had it delivered.

    The car however was delivered with a fault (it's intermittently jumpy on acceleration). The garage have been notified and the response is for me to claim on the warranty (RAC Gold).

    I like the car, and half trust the garage (in 2 months one of the few garages selling this particular car at my price point that isn't a garage that's been in business for 6 months with no reviews, or a garage with bad reviews). I have the option of taking it to my local garage tomorrow for a diagnosis.

    That said I am annoyed at the issue, however slight and fear diagnosis (which isn't covered by warranty) and any subsequent repairs will be messy and possibly costly.

    I understand being a distance sale I have 2 weeks to reject the vehicle for no reason? That deadline is tomorrow hence looking for advice.

    One thing that concerns me is that the price of the vehicle was £6500 - I was offered £2300 for my car as a trade-in which I accepted - this was all done on the phone.

    I've since looked through the documentation and noticed they have done some creative accounting on the invoice and listed the sale of the car as £6100 and the PX as £1900 - so it's possible if I did return the car they would be able to claim I paid only £6100 for it.

    I'm at a total loss as what to do. It was a huge purchase for us.
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    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 5th Feb 18, 7:58 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 7:58 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 7:58 PM
    You phone them and arrange for a repair

    I should t cost a penny being only 2 weeks old. Irrespective of warrabty
    • bobbymotors
    • By bobbymotors 5th Feb 18, 9:28 PM
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    • #3
    • 5th Feb 18, 9:28 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 9:28 PM
    The creative accounting you describe is normal. They were probably offered £1900 for your px within the trade and since there is no VAT relief for losses on sale price but VAT is charged on gross profit on a car, if they stick to the original figures it costs them money.

    the figure to change cars is the same though

    but you have effectively only paid £6100 for it....which is what you could have paid for it in readies with no px

    hopefully they'll sort it out, it can't be major (famous last words...)
    • bobbymotors
    • By bobbymotors 5th Feb 18, 9:29 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 9:29 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 9:29 PM
    Exactly as above, get it fixed by the selling dealer, I'm sure it won't be a problem
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 5th Feb 18, 10:45 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 10:45 PM
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    • 5th Feb 18, 10:45 PM
    I really wish people wouldn't say "new car", then go on to talk about a used car.

    The important thing with a used car is how old, and what's the fault? "Intermittently jumpy on acceleration" could be damn near anything, all the way from an inexperienced driver not being familiar with it.

    If you really want to reject it, you have 30 days. If they don't accept the rejection, you need to put the car beyond your use - physically return it - and then sue them for the money. The value of your PX would be included in the claim, which would be for £6100 + £1900 = £8000, as shown on the invoice.
    • kittennose
    • By kittennose 6th Feb 18, 9:51 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 9:51 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 9:51 AM
    You phone them and arrange for a repair

    I should t cost a penny being only 2 weeks old. Irrespective of warrabty
    Originally posted by arcon5
    They are just going to say we'll happily repair it if you bring it back to us - which is going to cost me £70 in fuel and 6 hours of my time.

    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 6th Feb 18, 10:06 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:06 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:06 AM
    They are just going to say we'll happily repair it if you bring it back to us - which is going to cost me £70 in fuel and 6 hours of my time.

    Originally posted by kittennose
    Who's fault is it that you bought it from a distant location? It's one of the risks that you take when travelling a distance to buy a car. You should only take risks that you calculate.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Feb 18, 10:09 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:09 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 10:09 AM
    They are just going to say we'll happily repair it if you bring it back to us - which is going to cost me £70 in fuel and 6 hours of my time.

    Originally posted by kittennose
    Purely by coincidence, there's another thread on a very similar line right now.
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5789255

    You chose to buy from a supplier a distance away. You knew their location.
    • kittennose
    • By kittennose 6th Feb 18, 11:04 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 11:04 AM
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    • 6th Feb 18, 11:04 AM
    Who's fault is it that you bought it from a distant location? It's one of the risks that you take when travelling a distance to buy a car. You should only take risks that you calculate.
    Originally posted by Mercdriver

    You chose to buy from a supplier a distance away. You knew their location.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    I totally agree buying at a distance was a risk and I happily took it. I also understood my rights in that I am covered and can return items purchased this way within 2 weeks for no reason and that was a comfort to me.

    I'm not blaming anyone for that, I was just wondering on the best way to sort my problem out that's all, as I have various options, some of which are time sensitive and I haven't had to do this before.
    Last edited by kittennose; 06-02-2018 at 11:09 AM.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Feb 18, 11:06 AM
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    Totally admit that was a risk and I happily took it.
    Originally posted by kittennose
    And this is the downside.

    I'm not blaming anyone for that just wondering on the best way to sort my problem out that's all.
    Ring them. Ask if they will be willing to use a local garage for diagnosis, and if they have any preference who. If they say "no", then decide if you want to spend the time, or if you'll just get it sorted yourself.

    How old is this car? What is it?
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