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    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 29th Jan 18, 9:15 AM
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    Another front door thread
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    • 29th Jan 18, 9:15 AM
    Another front door thread 29th Jan 18 at 9:15 AM
    I!!!8217;m looking to replace my front door. Who knew it would be so complicated, expensive and frankly boring?! I!!!8217;m hoping the good people on this board can help me find the following in metal / solid wood that can be reliably installed and won!!!8217;t cost a small fortune. All I want is a door (not surround) that looks like this:




    https://goo.gl/images/4Br4g3

    The door size is irregular but I am guessing that the frame can be made to accommodate a standard sized door.
    Last edited by VfM4meplse; 29-01-2018 at 9:19 AM.
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
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    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 29th Jan 18, 9:41 AM
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    Pretty standard design, not sure what you are after, look at composite doors.Your going to have to shop around, look for a small joinery company who do doors.
    • Lizabeth21
    • By Lizabeth21 29th Jan 18, 9:48 AM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 9:48 AM
    Looks like my door except I have a lion head knocker and proper door handle.
    Mines a composite door in navy.
    You do need to shop around.
    Yes they are made to measure - frame included.
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 29th Jan 18, 11:07 AM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 11:07 AM
    So there is no lazy-girl!!!8217;s way around this?

    I find it quite mind-numbing!
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 29th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
    So there is no lazy-girl’s way around this?

    I find it quite mind-numbing!
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    lazy way and mse way - keep your old door.
    • goodwithsaving
    • By goodwithsaving 29th Jan 18, 11:41 AM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 11:41 AM
    So there is no lazy-girl’s way around this?

    I find it quite mind-numbing!
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    You'll be spending a significant amount of money. Why do you want to do it the lazy way? It's the main entry into your home - and security.

    Anyway, I've gone for solidor. Composite, strong. I'd have preferred a Rokdoor but didn't have that sort of money.
    Every time you borrow money, you’re robbing your future self. –Nathan W. Morris
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 29th Jan 18, 7:45 PM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 7:45 PM
    You'll be spending a significant amount of money. Why do you want to do it the lazy way? It's the main entry into your home - and security.

    Anyway, I've gone for solidor. Composite, strong. I'd have preferred a Rokdoor but didn't have that sort of money.
    Originally posted by goodwithsaving
    I know, I know. I just cannot get excited about a door, however much is spent on it. Every time I open a brochure it sends me to sleep zzzzzzzzz. What I dread is spending money on something that seems to be securely manufactured and then finding it needs fixing all the time because of the way it is fitted (something I picked up on another thread on this board). It would drive me nuts leaving the house early for a commute into work to find the door hanging off its hinges.

    Am thankful for recommendations of reliable suppliers and fitters though.
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
    • flowrypot
    • By flowrypot 29th Jan 18, 7:57 PM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 7:57 PM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 7:57 PM
    I had a Rock door fitted by http://www.rightdoor.co.uk/about-us

    He was very good and neat ,and the price he quoted was what we paid.
    • goodwithsaving
    • By goodwithsaving 29th Jan 18, 8:22 PM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 8:22 PM
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    • 29th Jan 18, 8:22 PM
    I know, I know. I just cannot get excited about a door, however much is spent on it.
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    I do agree with you - but take is as a chance to change the front of the house and put even more of your mark on it. I found it boring, but I want to know the ins and outs of what I'm buying and the research paid off. My house will be a lot smarter with new doors! Finding them was dull but I'm excited for them being fitted
    Every time you borrow money, you’re robbing your future self. –Nathan W. Morris
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 5th Feb 18, 10:56 PM
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    I have new impetus to crack on with this now that its suddenly dawned on me that the reason the house is so flipping cold is that the external doors are energy inefficient! Funny how a dash of snow can concentrate the mind.

    I'd still be grateful for any tips though. Do I start with the door or the frame?
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
    • Furts
    • By Furts 6th Feb 18, 7:15 AM
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    Do I start with the door or the frame?
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    If you buy a pvcu, or a composite, door it comes together withe frame. So your question is probably irrelevant.

    You then look at your budget and fashion. Pvcu is cheaper, so if you are on a low budget this is the default choice. If you have more money then following fashion is possible by choosing a composite door. This is because pvcu doors look so dated - typical 1990s style.

    You have worried about security but only you know what the risks are in your location. However, the vast majority of people feel secure with composite doors, even though there are significant weakness with them. But here the same applies to a car and few worry about this. If you want to break into a car simply tap the window. People live with this, or do not consider it.
    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 6th Feb 18, 11:43 AM
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    If you buy a pvcu, or a composite, door it comes together withe frame. So your question is probably irrelevant.

    You then look at your budget and fashion. Pvcu is cheaper, so if you are on a low budget this is the default choice. If you have more money then following fashion is possible by choosing a composite door. This is because pvcu doors look so dated - typical 1990s style.

    You have worried about security but only you know what the risks are in your location. However, the vast majority of people feel secure with composite doors, even though there are significant weakness with them. But here the same applies to a car and few worry about this. If you want to break into a car simply tap the window. People live with this, or do not consider it.
    Originally posted by Furts
    without going into too much detail, what is the weakness in composite doors, Im considering installing 2 on my house.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 6th Feb 18, 11:51 AM
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    without going into too much detail, what is the weakness in composite doors, Im considering installing 2 on my house.
    Originally posted by tonyh66
    On a typical door everything is too weak - the lock, the locking mechanism, the glass, the frame, the door .. they fill a hole in a wall and people are happy with them. Fine as far as thousands of customers are concerned, but there is nothing secure about them contrary to the endless claims made by manufacturers.
    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 6th Feb 18, 2:09 PM
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    On a typical door everything is too weak - the lock, the locking mechanism, the glass, the frame, the door .. they fill a hole in a wall and people are happy with them. Fine as far as thousands of customers are concerned, but there is nothing secure about them contrary to the endless claims made by manufacturers.
    Originally posted by Furts
    So what do you have personally? TBH I don't want (can't really afford) timber and upvc always looks cheap. I live in Inverness its not really a hotbed of crime where people are kicking door panels in. Im looking to get the most secure locks I can.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 6th Feb 18, 3:08 PM
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    So what do you have personally? TBH I don't want (can't really afford) timber and upvc always looks cheap. I live in Inverness its not really a hotbed of crime where people are kicking door panels in. Im looking to get the most secure locks I can.
    Originally posted by tonyh66

    I have a DoorStop but I would never recommend this brand to any consumer. But equally there are worse ones out there.


    A composite will provide a door for you, so you need to see, touch and feel what is being offered to you in Inverness. You then decide on the quality and price trade off. Quality is a topic which 95% of consumers have zero interest in so over to you on where you stand on this.


    Just take all the marketing and sales spin as just that - pure spin. What you will be buying is a cheap, mass produced, low quality, insubstantial door. Mine certainly is, and yours will likely be similar.


    Look at your exposure to wind and rain, consider if you have an adequate porch, consider what light levels you want in your home, weigh this against security, pick a colour that is uv stable, more so if direct sun gets on it, decide on your core construction, consider Secured by Design, decide on the threshold detail and level ... these are some that come to mind.


    Then watch and scrutinise the measuring and the fitting with minute detail. Bear in mind the doors are made in a factory largely by machines, but frequently measured and installed in homes by unskilled, or semi skilled, fitters.
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