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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 1:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent




    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.

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    • ploppy57
    • By ploppy57 4th Mar 18, 2:02 PM
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    Finally Kondo'd the kitchen drawers and the cupboards with the baking tins and mixing bowls. Few bits for the CS and a load of old tins for metal recycling at tip. Looks lovely and tidy now. Next one to tackle when I get time is the big corner cupboard with cleaning stuff, vases, etc.
    Just asked OH if he would sort some of his DVDs and CD's....might as well have been talking to a brick wall....if he doesn't sort them soon I will start throwing out a few at a time and see if he
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 4th Mar 18, 2:05 PM
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    I lkie jugs, too, but have a mere six of them, space constraints preclude hoarding more.

    Well, my microwave has turned up its little electiconic toes in the past few minutes. Worked perfectly well last night when I nuked a spud, just tried it, it made the most horrendous racket and totally failed to cause heat in a food product - I was warming thru some crumble & custard.

    I shall get it to the tip, either via pushbicycle/ trolley or via a pal's car, although I prefer to be self-sufficient. I could just fly-tip it by the bins, as many of my neighbours do likewise, but that would sit ill with me (plus be very professionally embarrasing if caught out by council colleagues).

    This came from my late Nan's bungalow in Oct 2016 and is only the second microwave I've ever owned. The earlier one was a cast-off from a colleague at one workplace and ended up being given to a colleague at another workplace when I decided I needed the counterspace more than the appliance.

    I will think carefully before I replace, to decide whether it is really necessary.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • pavlovs_dog
    • By pavlovs_dog 4th Mar 18, 2:54 PM
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    I'm coming to the conclusion that the insidious clutter is not the hotspots which annoy us on a daily basis but the things we have tidied away (out of sight,out of mind, and usually kept for our 'friend' Justin).

    I cut my hair short over a year ago and yet still possess a ridiculous number of decorative hair bobbles and brushes which I can no longer use and never used when I had longer hair anyway. Madness!

    The 2 things a day plan is still working well, it is much more manageable than the MINS game and still maintains a steady outward flow.
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    • carrielovesfanta
    • By carrielovesfanta 4th Mar 18, 3:13 PM
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    omg, I did not "hear" that in your posts, kittie! Aigburth here and Otterspool Promenade

    Down here in SE England, however , snow is melting from yesterday. And my house is still consumed with my half of my mother's patchwork and material stash. As well as individual completed items, there's a lot of halfdone bits and bobs - I definitely need to put them together to make up a throw or something similar.
    Originally posted by Karmacat

    I'm the opposite to you Karmacat - went from SE England to Merseyside
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    • Igamogam
    • By Igamogam 4th Mar 18, 5:36 PM
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    Well I kondoed a week due to illness - feel like I have been away for a month Everything that I planned last week has now collided into this week................and I missed the snow.........I love snow

    Anyway doc signed me off work until later in the week so, heeding advice to have as some rest, I will still do some gentle kondoing - not the ambitious clear out I had planned though - never mind!
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    • greent
    • By greent 4th Mar 18, 7:16 PM
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    Hope you are well and truly on the mend, Igamogam - definitely take it easy, though x

    DD has gone back to uni tonight - taking some pantry, fridge and freezer contents with her - sort of KMing my food supplies for me

    Dressing up box sorted out - 1 scraggy item, some random small bits binned, 2 toy torches with corroded batteries gone. Several complete outfits which are now too small (or too scary for DS3 when it comes to Hallowe'en) have been washed and put aside for selling at next NNS.
    I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul
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    • carolbee
    • By carolbee 4th Mar 18, 7:52 PM
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    All clear in our little corner of Kent. Used the snowy days to go through cupboards and make a list of what was needed to keep stocks up whilst DH was decorating.

    next room to decorate will be living room, am constamtly reviewing books, cds etc and taking them to CS.

    Hope all are safe and well
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 4th Mar 18, 10:52 PM
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    I'm the opposite to you Karmacat - went from SE England to Merseyside
    Originally posted by carrielovesfanta
    Fascinating, carrie! I don't have many rellies actually in Liverpool any more, so the first time I heard of people moving **to** Liverpool (as opposed to migrants and sailors just ending up there) was about ten years ago. And my first thought when I read your post was "ooh, how lucky!" It wouldn't suit me to move cities nowadays, but I do love going back.
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    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 4th Mar 18, 11:51 PM
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    I see from F@cebook that the real commercialisation of MK has started.

    Now she has added a joint venture with a company selling leather boxes (for jewellery/ komono etc), to courses for would be affiliates, Netflix progs etc.

    It is very understandable but it makes me sad. Only keeping the things that spark joy, seemed a rather "pure" concept somehow.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • kittie
    • By kittie 5th Mar 18, 7:13 AM
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    I'm coming to the conclusion that the insidious clutter is not the hotspots which annoy us on a daily basis but the things we have tidied away (out of sight,out of mind, and usually kept for our 'friend' Justin)
    Originally posted by pavlovs_dog

    I so want to do some more in my wardrobe but will have to wear trousers and socks to do it. My skirt and tights were too restrictive yesterday, scholl light legs. I think I may pack stuff away in sets to wear and that includes tidier housewear. I have gone back to wearing very light jumpers with a light silk vest. I notice that some are acrylic with a small wool percentage, so they won`t last long anyway. I am trying to imagine how on earth I would ever get myself into a smaller property, next but one. I have enough time to wear stuff out and not replace, got to look on the bright side and at least I have given myself plenty of notice

    I looked into my much compacted nightie space last night and am pleased. Two winter nighties and 3 summer nighties, good I can manage that, knowing that I will make any new replacement nightie from my fabric stash.
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 5th Mar 18, 8:33 AM
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    Row was had in our house yesterday when OH's new nose hair trimmer arrived to replace previous one which broke. He proudly told me this was the number one rated item........... it came with a whole load of 'attachments' for trimming sideburns and goodness knows what. None of which he would actually use. He had a strop when I had a strop about this extra clut and said he'd send it back, but I doubt he will.

    So that's another load of crap we'll have to store, in the package it came in, as there's nothing like a bag included to keep all the dross in. Believe me when I say it won't be here by the end of the year.......
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 5th Mar 18, 9:46 AM
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    Don't you just love scammers........ I had one on Friday attempting to get me to send nearly £10K to a bank account for the work of a supposed new contractor in my business. Seeing they'd faked an email address for my company secretary (OH) using his first name which he doesn't call himself, even in my sleep I knew it was fake, plus I'm sure I'd have noticed an expensive contractor in my business.

    This morning I've had another one come in. Supposedly from myself !! for a new contractor. I think I'll have a little fun with this. I've just replied back to say I've had the contractor in the office complaining about the late payment and have said I'll sort it as soon as I can.............. We'll see what happens next!
    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 5th Mar 18, 10:03 AM
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    Ooh Slinky - do keep us updated - I just love it when scammers are sussed and someone strings them along - who was it who had a conversation about the 'Gary' towel?? Hilarious!
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 5th Mar 18, 10:12 AM
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    Gary's towel resides with GreyQueen.

    I'm curious about this scammer, it's obviously from the same source as the one on Friday as the email wording is identical apart from the bank details. Having done a search on the sort codes, neither of them are valid sort codes........... so what's the point? They've had to skim data from Companies House to get our names, yet we don't appear to be able to pay them!
    • kittie
    • By kittie 5th Mar 18, 10:45 AM
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    could it be to make other people think they are paying you but in reality they arethe ones being scammed. Those sort of scams scare the life out of me. Perhaps the scammers are sending messages to check that their scam is live.

    I did a wee bit of kondo in the wardrobe, put a long skirt out as it always felt `dowdy` and put three outfits together, skirts and thin jumpers, ready to pick out and wear. I want to do t shirts and the like as they take up a whole drawer but am sitting on hands, don`t want to regret putting stuff out, best if I wait for the right season
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 5th Mar 18, 11:13 AM
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    2 dinner jackets, 1 morning suit and 3 bags of books finally went today. So glad that the snow is being Kondoed.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • Elona
    • By Elona 5th Mar 18, 11:30 AM
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    I have just been listening to the weather guru who reckons the snow could be back by the 17 of this month for about five days.

    Thought I had better share this as he has a good track record.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 5th Mar 18, 5:32 PM
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    OK, now these things often run in threes, so in an 8 hour period yesterday my microwave died (only twenty years old, how very dare it!) and then my watch battery karked it just before midnight.

    I am now re-batteried for the princely sum of £4 and wondering what else is about to happen.......... watch this space.

    Errrr, if I disappear off the t'interweb, you'll know it was the pooter turning up its toes.

    Spontaeneous kondo-ing, without any effort on my part.

    Oh, I did return a borrowed book but, since I took two out of the library, I'm still not ahead on the dead tree front.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • wort
    • By wort 5th Mar 18, 7:03 PM
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    I've been painting the stairs and landing, I thought I'd need some sort of ladder to reach the far corner over the stairs, but I've managed with a long handled roller, and a paintbrush taped to the end of another pole. Still another coat to do ,though I'm impressed how good the coverage was,
    By which time the paint will have been kondoed, it's s huge tub of trade emulsion
    I'm really pleased with myself I've always done the painting ,but not ceiling which I've done 3 of now. This job has been needing doing for ages I'll be glad to get it finished.
    Wish I could kondo the bad back and sore arm though.
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    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 5th Mar 18, 7:44 PM
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    I have just been listening to the weather guru who reckons the snow could be back by the 17 of this month for about five days.

    Thought I had better share this as he has a good track record.
    Originally posted by Elona

    Thank you for the warning, I'll put some extra in the freezer.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
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