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    • diddy_d
    • By diddy_d 13th Jan 18, 11:12 PM
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    Help... Broker mistake on product transfer and LTV change
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    • 13th Jan 18, 11:12 PM
    Help... Broker mistake on product transfer and LTV change 13th Jan 18 at 11:12 PM
    Hi all
    I've got a bit of a problem as my Mortgage Broker (an apparent specialist for Contractors who make mortgages easy ) made a mistake on a product transfer application with the Halifax - the sequence of events are as below:

    My mortgage consists of 2 sub accounts.

    1. Current fixed term comes to an end at the end of the month
    2. LTV since Jan 1 - Jan 12 was 59%, getting me into their 1.94% 5 year fixed product.
    3. Broker applies for product transfer and accidentally applies the product to only 1 sub account
    4. Due to the application being progressed to the point of 'ready to complete' the broker couldn't reverse the application. at this point the broker called me (last thursday 11/1) told me of the error and said that only I could call the halifax at this stage and request the product transfer to be reversed so that afterwards the broker could reapply.
    5. I contact halifax straight away and they send the relevant instruction to their back office team - I was told 1-2 days is typical turnaround however they officially quote 5-10 working days!
    6. I call up today to check whether the application was cancelled/reversed - and it hasn't been YET. However the index-linked valuation for my property has changed and the LTV is now 61%!!!

    I have written a strongly worded email to the broker as I now am ineligible for the product we originally applied for and asked them to put the situation right - I assume they would need to seek advice from their Halifax BDM.

    What I need help with is - what should I do now? I dont feel like making 8-9k overpayment just to get into a different tier of LTV (I've already made a big overpayment to get to the previous 59%!)

    What should be within the power of the broker/lender to make the situation right, or is there absolutely nothing I can do and have to move to a 2.14% product?

    To say I'm p!ssed off is an understatement.
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    • ACG
    • By ACG 13th Jan 18, 11:36 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 11:36 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 11:36 PM
    Whoever has made the mistake needs to put you in the position you would have been had the mistake not happened.

    So I would assume the the broker would need to pay the difference between the original deal and the new deal for as long as the deal lasted - ie if you would have been paying £500 a month on a 2 year fixed rate and you are now having to pay £510 a month, the broker would need to pay you £10 a month or £240?

    But without knowing more, it is very difficult to say for sure.

    Wait and see what happens and what the broker comes back with. They might be able to get Halifax to honour what was originally agreed.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
    • diddy_d
    • By diddy_d 13th Jan 18, 11:53 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 11:53 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 11:53 PM
    Thanks ACG - I'll wait until Monday when the Broker gets back in office, but in a nutshell your guidance is what I'm shooting for. I think the difference will be around £30/month for 5 years, so about £1800 in total IF the lender cannot provide the previous product rate.

    To be honest there's not much more to it - but if theres any other info that would help you provide me with more concrete advice please let me know.

    Thanks again
    • Slip5
    • By Slip5 15th Jan 18, 10:43 AM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 10:43 AM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 10:43 AM
    Whoever has made the mistake needs to put you in the position you would have been had the mistake not happened...
    Originally posted by ACG
    ↑↑ This - I just quoted this succinct line to the broker. At first - naturally they tried pushing for vanilla excuses and suggestions like "request a revaluation", "tough luck", "we have done you favours in the past"... type stuff. I have kindly given them the opportunity to make right of the situation to make sure that what I end up paying over 5 years does not change based on if the mistake had not been made. Issue is being escalated, fingers crossed they come good (which they should)
    • ACG
    • By ACG 15th Jan 18, 10:57 AM
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    • #5
    • 15th Jan 18, 10:57 AM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 10:57 AM
    ↑↑ This - I just quoted this succinct line to the broker. At first - naturally they tried pushing for vanilla excuses and suggestions like "request a revaluation", "tough luck", "we have done you favours in the past"... type stuff. I have kindly given them the opportunity to make right of the situation to make sure that what I end up paying over 5 years does not change based on if the mistake had not been made. Issue is being escalated, fingers crossed they come good (which they should)
    Originally posted by Slip5
    Back end of last year, I recommended a product to a client because it had a free val and legals. I looked at a product that was only for existing customers of that particular lender, which the customer was not.

    I carried on with the application and set up some solicitors which I paid myself (£200). I told the client after the application and solicitors fees what had happened because I did not want them to worry about it.

    I am all for doing the right thing, but sometimes there should be a bit of give and take. If the broker has done you favours in the past, then you do not necessarily need to hold them 100% to what you are entitled to, just because you are entitled to it.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
    • Slip5
    • By Slip5 15th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
    I hear what you're saying, and I agree with your principle. In any case, my starting position should be (and has so far been) to request the situation be put right, it is up to the broker to counter propose a solution to the matter upon which I shall decide whether it's acceptable - and we have an understanding that this will be the case, so let's see what they come back with
    • ACG
    • By ACG 15th Jan 18, 1:31 PM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:31 PM
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:31 PM
    Fair enough. To be honest, in your situation I would be more inclined to push it because they had tried to get out of putting it right.

    It is just common decency, you should not have to wait for an answer to confirm how they are going to put it right. It should be a case of "yea we f'd up, we will knock the difference off your bill"
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
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