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    • jonestom
    • By jonestom 11th Jan 18, 5:11 PM
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    Overstay at paid car park
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:11 PM
    Overstay at paid car park 11th Jan 18 at 5:11 PM
    Hi all,
    I'm looking for best advice regarding wording my appeal to an IPC registered company Excel Parking.
    I have copied the template for the appeal, but not all of the wording in it seems relevant to my case.
    I am the owner of the vehicle, not the driver. I have received the PCN and NTK. The contravention stated: Parked after the expiry of the time purchased.
    The car expiry time was 15.33, the driver arrived back at the car as the Parking Attendant was issuing the PCN. The driver asked if there wasn't any period of grace, the attendant said '10/11 minutes' the attendant was writing the time on the PCN as 15.45hrs the driver argued that if that indeed is the right time (15.45hrs and my ticket is paid up to 15.33hrs and I have 11 minutes grace, I am being done for 1 minute over. Before the driver drove off, he took a photograph of the clock in the car with the PCN time next to it just for his record.The car clock time was 15.49, therefore from arriving at the car, to disputing things with the attendant, the issuing of the PCN and driving off, he was still only 16 minutes later than his ticket expiry time.
    In this car park, you find your space, park up,choose your parking duration, input the car reg, put your money in, obtain your ticket and display it in the car.
    The signage in the car park does state that a PCN will be issued on overstay, it doesn't mention periods of grace.
    Another point that may or may not be relevant, on the NTK PCN I have received by post, the contravention time is stated as 15.49hrs, which differs from the 15.45hrs on the PCN written by the attendant
    I would be very grateful for any help with the wording of the appeal letter.
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 11th Jan 18, 5:15 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:15 PM
    You are dealing with scammers. Nothing you say or do will make any difference, so just send the IPC template exactly as is. If/when it is rejected, you do nothing unless you get real court papers.
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 11th Jan 18, 5:16 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:16 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:16 PM
    If you got the template letter from the Newbies FAQ thread then you should know that appeals to IPC companies are futile.

    The idea of the letter is just to be able to show a judge in future you didn't simply ignore the issue
    • jonestom
    • By jonestom 11th Jan 18, 9:01 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 9:01 PM
    Overstay at paid carpark
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    • 11th Jan 18, 9:01 PM
    Thanks Quentin/Fruitcake. Message understood. Cheers.
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