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    • rev_henry
    • By rev_henry 10th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
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    BMW Service intervals
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
    BMW Service intervals 10th Jan 18 at 6:19 PM
    F30 320d. The car itself thinks service intervals of around 21k or up to 2 years are sufficient. Honest John and 'The internet' does not, particularly if one doesn't want the cam chain to eat itself later in life. HJ suggests 10k. I am inclined to agree, 21k is rather a long time with the same oil. My local independent specialist agrees with BMW and is very reluctant to take my money every 10k. I therefore seek further opinions from 'the internet'.
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    • loskie
    • By loskie 10th Jan 18, 6:22 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:22 PM
    just get an interim oil change done anywhere and if you wish to use BMW for servicing as per schedule do so without telling them.
    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 10th Jan 18, 6:35 PM
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    If you plan to keep the car for some time then a 10k or yearly oil change will be money well spent.

    DIY oil and filter is cheap if you feel confident.
    • rev_henry
    • By rev_henry 10th Jan 18, 6:43 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:43 PM
    If you plan to keep the car for some time then a 10k or yearly oil change will be money well spent.

    DIY oil and filter is cheap if you feel confident.
    Originally posted by wgl2014
    Crucial detail I missed, I do 20k+ a year so even on BMW intervals it'll be changed annually at least.
    Eurgh, no, life it too short to mess around with such things!
    • rev_henry
    • By rev_henry 10th Jan 18, 6:45 PM
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    just get an interim oil change done anywhere and if you wish to use BMW for servicing as per schedule do so without telling them.
    Originally posted by loskie
    No I've no intention of going anywhere near the dealer with it, because they are overpriced and useless.
    • loskie
    • By loskie 10th Jan 18, 6:50 PM
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    well then why are you asking, it's your car do what you like with it.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 10th Jan 18, 8:21 PM
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    No I've no intention of going anywhere near the dealer with it, because they are overpriced and useless.
    Originally posted by rev_henry
    Sounds like you've already made up your mind then.
    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 10th Jan 18, 8:41 PM
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    With that mileage I would consider going somewhere like:
    https://www.national.co.uk/oil-change?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkNfSBRCSARIsAL-u3X-MxxUXxc037lX9KdnMx8Rd_rwUpok9B56EUYzFGfof2OZGJNST1 9IaAoUjEALw_wcB
    Convenient and cheap for basic oil and filter.
    I would still do 10k changes, few quid a year could save a lot more in time.
    • Shimrod
    • By Shimrod 10th Jan 18, 9:30 PM
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    Crucial detail I missed, I do 20k+ a year so even on BMW intervals it'll be changed annually at least.
    Eurgh, no, life it too short to mess around with such things!
    Originally posted by rev_henry
    My E90 did 194K without a hitch, with similar annual mileage and service intervals. I intend doing the same with the current car which has just passed 67K - so my internet opinion is follow the BMW guide!
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Jan 18, 9:35 PM
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    just get an interim oil change done anywhere and if you wish to use BMW for servicing as per schedule do so without telling them.
    Originally posted by loskie
    Thats what we did with my sons 120d M Sport. Full service history with BMW main dealer, interim service and maintenance with local indie
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 10th Jan 18, 9:46 PM
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    My e46320d which did 130K miles, my e90320d which did 78K miles and my current f30 330d all had/have full BMW Service history with oil changes as the Computer Based Servicing demanded.

    However I change the oil filter at halfway between oil-changes - note that's an extra filter change at around 9 to 10K miles without changing the oil.

    Additionally I change the air-filter at every oil-change - not at every 2nd one as BMW recommend.

    No hassle with timing chains or any other engine problems.

    And if there were, BMW are going to fix it - on the extended BMW warranty.
    • Mr.Generous
    • By Mr.Generous 10th Jan 18, 10:21 PM
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    While I am impressed at how often these BMW's are at a garage getting serviced can I ask .... Why don't they fix the indicators at the same time?


    Mobil1 0-40 oil and filter change every 10,000 / 12 months for me.
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 10th Jan 18, 10:27 PM
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    While I am impressed at how often these BMW's are at a garage getting serviced can I ask .... Why don't they fix the indicators at the same time?


    Mobil1 0-40 oil and filter change every 10,000 / 12 months for me.
    Originally posted by Mr.Generous
    That joke was very funny - but only the first thousand times.
    • jk0
    • By jk0 10th Jan 18, 10:52 PM
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    While I am impressed at how often these BMW's are at a garage getting serviced can I ask .... Why don't they fix the indicators at the same time?

    Originally posted by Mr.Generous
    The driver has to top up the blinker fluid himself. (No-one ever does.)

    BTW: Another vote here for interim oil changes at National Tyres. Usually about £50 for my car including engine flush.
    Last edited by jk0; 10-01-2018 at 11:00 PM.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 11th Jan 18, 12:40 PM
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    No need to change the oil every 10,000 miles anymore. It isn't the 1990s. Explanation with behind the scenes testing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zDt9FGJi8&t=30s

    For those who don't want to watch, one vehicle they ran for 500,000 miles with the oil changes every 20,000 miles and the oil tested every 5,000 miles. Looked almost like new when they stripped the engine down. Only problem they had was gearbox failure at 300,000 miles.
    • rev_henry
    • By rev_henry 13th Jan 18, 8:23 PM
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    well then why are you asking, it's your car do what you like with it.
    Originally posted by loskie
    Sounds like you've already made up your mind then.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    Forgive me, I didn't mean that to sound rude.
    I won't be taking it to BMW, the question I am asking is do I follow the BMW recommended intervals or do 10k oil changes?
    • rev_henry
    • By rev_henry 13th Jan 18, 8:31 PM
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    Sounds like you've already made up your mind then.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    No need to change the oil every 10,000 miles anymore. It isn't the 1990s. Explanation with behind the scenes testing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zDt9FGJi8&t=30s

    For those who don't want to watch, one vehicle they ran for 500,000 miles with the oil changes every 20,000 miles and the oil tested every 5,000 miles. Looked almost like new when they stripped the engine down. Only problem they had was gearbox failure at 300,000 miles.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    The main reason I am considering extra oil changes is because of the timing chain weakness on this particular car which apparently can be mitigated with extra oil changes, which presumably wasn't an issue on this?
    My e46320d which did 130K miles, my e90320d which did 78K miles and my current f30 330d all had/have full BMW Service history with oil changes as the Computer Based Servicing demanded.

    However I change the oil filter at halfway between oil-changes - note that's an extra filter change at around 9 to 10K miles without changing the oil.

    Additionally I change the air-filter at every oil-change - not at every 2nd one as BMW recommend.

    No hassle with timing chains or any other engine problems.

    And if there were, BMW are going to fix it - on the extended BMW warranty.
    Originally posted by Iceweasel
    Thanks. What brought you to deciding on that schedule?
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 13th Jan 18, 9:12 PM
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    The main reason I am considering extra oil changes is because of the timing chain weakness on this particular car which apparently can be mitigated with extra oil changes, which presumably wasn't an issue on this?

    The build date of your car will be on the label on the driver's door post - if it's later than March 2011 then the chances of timing chain failure are minimal.

    Thanks. What brought you to deciding on that schedule?
    Originally posted by rev_henry
    The oil-filter is pretty small on these engines and for me it's a quick and easy change - a matter of 10 minutes or less.

    The air-filter after approx 36 to 40k miles is absolutely filthy - dead flies, leaves and even cigarette ends can get in there. Again a quick easy change and it helps the mpg figures too.
    • Aletank
    • By Aletank 14th Jan 18, 8:30 AM
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    No need to change the oil every 10,000 miles anymore. It isn't the 1990s. Explanation with behind the scenes testing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zDt9FGJi8&t=30s

    For those who don't want to watch, one vehicle they ran for 500,000 miles with the oil changes every 20,000 miles and the oil tested every 5,000 miles. Looked almost like new when they stripped the engine down. Only problem they had was gearbox failure at 300,000 miles.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    I know BMW is 18k mile/18 months but most manufacturers are 20k miles/12 months.
    If the mileage interval has been extended from 6k-10k-20k miles, why hasn't the time interval been extended much from the 12 months ?
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 14th Jan 18, 10:10 AM
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    I know BMW is 18k mile/18 months but most manufacturers are 20k miles/12 months.
    If the mileage interval has been extended from 6k-10k-20k miles, why hasn't the time interval been extended much from the 12 months ?
    Originally posted by Aletank
    A new (or newly serviced) BMW with Computer Based Servicing will display that the next service is after 30,000 Kms or 2 years into the future, giving an exact date.

    That 30K Kms is nearer to 19K miles than 18K at 18640 miles, but only complete thousands are indicated. That is why it takes longer for the indicator to reach 17K miles than from 17K to 16K

    That distance to the next oil-service changes as the vehicle is driven.

    If the car does mainly town miles or short journeys the count-down goes faster so that the oil-service may eventually be called for at 12 to 13k miles.

    On the other hand if the car is used mainly for long motorway journeys then the interval is extended to perhaps 19k or 20K miles.

    No matter how many, or how few, miles are covered the 2 year deadline never changes.

    To me these intervals make sense and my car is serviced at around 19500 miles which takes me approx 14 months.

    Hope that helps.
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