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    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 10th Jan 18, 6:03 PM
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    Anyone know the process of what happens with the car after part exchange?
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:03 PM
    Anyone know the process of what happens with the car after part exchange? 10th Jan 18 at 6:03 PM
    Obviously every car dealership is different, but I'm just curious.

    Long story short, two weeks ago I part exchanged my six year old Corsa at my local Audi dealership when buying a six month old A3.

    When part changing the Corsa, I completely forgot I had my AA car genie plugged into the diagnostics socket. It's not something I'll miss as I left the AA a few months ago anyway, my new car also came with breakdown cover as part of the deal. But I was curious as to where my old car ended up, and to my surprise there's a big log of short journeys on the car. Such as being moved around the Audi Forecourt and then all of a sudden the car appeared in Luton.

    But I'm puzzled as to why two weeks later, moved onto another car dealership's lot, and moved around a number of times since, why the diagnostics of the car haven't been checked? I know it's my old car and isn't really my concern anymore, but this suggests to me that car dealerships aren't testing car diagnostics and so to a consumer, do we really know what we're getting? I mean the car does drive, but I've had numerous faults with it in the past that have failed to show symptoms, one example was when I had a corroded coil pack. The car still started and drove fine. But I honestly did have quite a few issues with the car throughout my time with it, which makes me wonder if the dealership I bought it from even bothered to check the car. And even though my new Audi is only a few months old, how do I know that's even been checked?

    So what usually is the process of selling/partexing a car? Because to me it seems like Audi sold it onto a company, now they'll try sell it onto a customer? I just don't know. But I'm quite curious
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    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 10th Jan 18, 6:12 PM
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    Audi will either sell it on to another dealer whose target market suits or it will go to auction.

    What checks are done will depend on the dealer and will vary from comprehensive to none!
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Jan 18, 6:14 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:14 PM
    No Audi dealer is going to bother trying to retail a 6yo Corsa. Straight to auction.

    I bet your AA thingy didn't even remain plugged into the OBD port that long. It's in a bin somewhere, as the useless bit of guff it is.

    Since you bought a car through Audi's approved-used scheme, then https://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/why-buy-approved.html explains the checks it went through.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 10th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
    No Audi dealer is going to bother trying to retail a 6yo Corsa. Straight to auction.

    I bet your AA thingy didn't even remain plugged into the OBD port that long. It's in a bin somewhere, as the useless bit of guff it is.

    Since you bought a car through Audi's approved-used scheme, then https://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/why-buy-approved.html explains the checks it went through.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Oh I knew Audi wouldn't sell the Corsa themselves, I said myself a few days after collecting the car that I can imagine it'll soon be gone because it was an eyesore to Audi

    But this is my point about the AA device, it's still plugged in even today! The car ended up in Luton last Friday I believe, and yet a few times this week it's been moved around, 17:30 this evening being the last movement, so it's not binned
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 10th Jan 18, 6:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:26 PM
    Ah, I'm with you know...

    Well, if there's no fault codes being shown via the engine management light, why bother read for them?
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 10th Jan 18, 6:40 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 6:40 PM
    Ah, I'm with you know...

    Well, if there's no fault codes being shown via the engine management light, why bother read for them?
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Well that's true. Although saying that, when I mentioned my corroded coil pack in the original post, that didn't show the Engine Management light either.

    It was one weird car. I'm glad to be shut of it
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
    It gets valeted, stuck on the forecourt with £1,000 mark up and the next purchaser checks it.
    • mbwoy84
    • By mbwoy84 11th Jan 18, 8:52 AM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 8:52 AM
    It’s at an auction.

    There are several large auction houses in and around Luton.

    The sites are quite large, so will be moved about a bit.

    If it’s only 6 years old it will get more checks by one of the larger auction houses than most cars. BCA for example will carry out a full cosmetic check inside and outside and upload the check sheet online. For that age, they also get a full mechanical inspection report by the AA, which is uploaded for potential purchasers to view. Stating if they feel any issues with noise from the engine bay, engaging first and reverse, noise at start up, any warning light on, low levels etc, but they still don’t plug any diagnostic readers in.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 11th Jan 18, 10:19 AM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 10:19 AM
    Itís at an auction.

    There are several large auction houses in and around Luton.

    The sites are quite large, so will be moved about a bit.

    If itís only 6 years old it will get more checks by one of the larger auction houses than most cars. BCA for example will carry out a full cosmetic check inside and outside and upload the check sheet online. For that age, they also get a full mechanical inspection report by the AA, which is uploaded for potential purchasers to view. Stating if they feel any issues with noise from the engine bay, engaging first and reverse, noise at start up, any warning light on, low levels etc, but they still donít plug any diagnostic readers in.
    Originally posted by mbwoy84
    So does this pretty much mean somebody is going to end up buying this car and it's still got a device plugged into it that basically tracks the vehicle?
    • IanMSpencer
    • By IanMSpencer 11th Jan 18, 10:30 AM
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    So does this pretty much mean somebody is going to end up buying this car and it's still got a device plugged into it that basically tracks the vehicle?
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    Someone already has - the dealer!

    An idle thought - I wonder what sort of offence, if any, you might be committing by monitoring the car?
    • takman
    • By takman 11th Jan 18, 11:30 AM
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    Obviously every car dealership is different, but I'm just curious.

    Long story short, two weeks ago I part exchanged my six year old Corsa at my local Audi dealership when buying a six month old A3.

    When part changing the Corsa, I completely forgot I had my AA car genie plugged into the diagnostics socket. It's not something I'll miss as I left the AA a few months ago anyway, my new car also came with breakdown cover as part of the deal. But I was curious as to where my old car ended up, and to my surprise there's a big log of short journeys on the car. Such as being moved around the Audi Forecourt and then all of a sudden the car appeared in Luton.

    But I'm puzzled as to why two weeks later, moved onto another car dealership's lot, and moved around a number of times since, why the diagnostics of the car haven't been checked? I know it's my old car and isn't really my concern anymore, but this suggests to me that car dealerships aren't testing car diagnostics and so to a consumer, do we really know what we're getting? I mean the car does drive, but I've had numerous faults with it in the past that have failed to show symptoms, one example was when I had a corroded coil pack. The car still started and drove fine. But I honestly did have quite a few issues with the car throughout my time with it, which makes me wonder if the dealership I bought it from even bothered to check the car. And even though my new Audi is only a few months old, how do I know that's even been checked?

    So what usually is the process of selling/partexing a car? Because to me it seems like Audi sold it onto a company, now they'll try sell it onto a customer? I just don't know. But I'm quite curious
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    So it does have an inbuilt mobile connection that allows you to remotely track the vehicle. When you started a thread about this and i checked the site it made no mention of having it's own data connection to allow you to do this.

    The AA representative even said you had to use WIFI or phone data to make it work. When what they should have said is that it connects to mobile network by itself.

    Car Genie doesn't connect to Bluetooth to work it will use WIFI or phone data. Customersí phones will still work as normal, using regular features.
    Originally posted by The AA Company Representative
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 11th Jan 18, 11:39 AM
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    I doubt they'd plug anything into the ODB unless there was a fault light on, and depending on the size of the Genie it's unlikely anyone has noticed it's plugged in (or unusual).
    • d123
    • By d123 11th Jan 18, 12:35 PM
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    So it does have an inbuilt mobile connection that allows you to remotely track the vehicle. When you started a thread about this and i checked the site it made no mention of having it's own data connection to allow you to do this.

    The AA representative even said you had to use WIFI or phone data to make it work. When what they should have said is that it connects to mobile network by itself.
    Originally posted by takman
    Though in that same thread it says:

    This is wrong. The Car Genie has a SIM card in it and transmits information via mobile data. You can even see where the car is when you're not in it. No BT connection is required. I use my phone hands-free via BT and the device still works perfectly
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    And the AA description says:

    “Any faults reported to members are also pushed to our diagnostic dashboard within the AA, so they’ll be constantly monitored by our technical helpdesk team. If it’s something that needs to be addressed quickly, the team will get the relevant technical information and make an outbound call to the member.”
    So it’s definitely got its own connection back to the AA.
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    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 11th Jan 18, 1:17 PM
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    Someone already has - the dealer!

    An idle thought - I wonder what sort of offence, if any, you might be committing by monitoring the car?
    Originally posted by IanMSpencer
    Well yep, that's true. I probably am committing an offence but I was just curious the other day as to whether this device had been removed or not and went onto the app before I deleted it where I saw even after two weeks, this device is still picking up data.

    I didn't really see it as an offence but you could be right. In my defence I'm hardly going to chase after a Corsa when I've just bought a nearly new Audi But saying that, I bet some people would.
    • Lucky Duck
    • By Lucky Duck 11th Jan 18, 1:59 PM
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    With my current car I can lock/unlock it, check its location, see fuel and oil levels, service information, etc via a website or an app.

    While I am sure it is not the case, reading the manual seems to suggest you may be reliant on the soon to be previous owner deleting his account/app for this to stop working when the keys are handed over.
    • ess0two
    • By ess0two 11th Jan 18, 5:28 PM
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    Does it really matter, whatever the car is upto?
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    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 11th Jan 18, 5:41 PM
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    Does it really matter, whatever the car is upto?
    Originally posted by ess0two
    No not really, I'm just curious
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 11th Jan 18, 5:45 PM
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    No not really, I'm just curious
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    Try Grindr.
    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 11th Jan 18, 5:47 PM
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    Well yep, that's true. I probably am committing an offence.
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    What offence do you think you could be committing? I can't think of any.

    If you started stalking the cars new owner based on the data you received then maybe.....
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 11th Jan 18, 5:56 PM
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    What offence do you think you could be committing? I can't think of any.
    Originally posted by wgl2014
    He'd be breaching the Computer Misuse Act, for a start.
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