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    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
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    Dropped Kerb help
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    • 7th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
    Dropped Kerb help 7th Jan 18 at 2:55 PM
    I'm looking to buy the property in the link below, however it has no off street parking, is it feasible to drop the kerb and make a parking space, possibly two?

    The house in Kettering (Northampton Council), it's the house with the diamond leaded windows next to the light Blue Toyota, wood picket fence.

    Im hoping the tree won't cause a problem and the wooden parking post can be removed.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3976849,-0.7129643,3a,79.9y,161.07h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB2ENZ0zNaCgJC8o7o0jgjA!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656
    Last edited by Glover1862; 07-01-2018 at 5:56 PM.
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    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 7th Jan 18, 2:59 PM
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    Your map link doesn't seem to work
    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 3:06 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:06 PM
    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3976849,-0.7129643,3a,79.9y,161.07h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB2ENZ0zNaCgJC8o7o0jgjA!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656

    Sorry, hopefully that works.

    I didn't think it was straight forward, looking the Northampton council website is states - reasons for rejection :

    Trees: If there is a tree (or trees) in front of your property such that any constructed access would be closer than 1m to the trunk. This is increased to the width of the tree’s canopy if there is an access on the other side of the tree in question.

    Entrance and visibility: If sightlines are unobstructed from a height of 1.2m there must be at least 3m of space at the boundary of your property and the highway boundary to form an entrance. If this visibility requirement cannot be reached then a minimum entrance width of 5m is necessary.

    Space: There must be an unobstructed space of at least 5m deep by 3m wide within the bounds of your property.

    http://www3.northamptonshire.gov.uk/councilservices/northamptonshire-highways/parking/Pages/apply-for-a-dropped-kerb.aspx
    Last edited by Glover1862; 07-01-2018 at 3:09 PM.
    • Tigsteroonie
    • By Tigsteroonie 7th Jan 18, 3:08 PM
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    Aren't you going to have a bigger problem with the tree that is right outside? You won't get that removed, and I doubt you have sufficient width on the other side of the tree. (The wooden posts look like they are there to prevent parking on the verge so, if you got a dropped kerb, that would be removed.)
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    • 3mph
    • By 3mph 7th Jan 18, 3:10 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:10 PM
    The problem will be getting planning permission, rather than any physical obstacles to doing it.
    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 3:13 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:13 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:13 PM
    You don't need planning permission but the work has to be to a set standard any an approved contractor.

    Also, there are 10 kerb stones across the property, you only 5 for a dropped kerb so might be enough space even leaving 1m, will be tight.
    • f0xh0les
    • By f0xh0les 7th Jan 18, 3:17 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:17 PM
    Have a look further down the road, to where the pickup is parked. To the right when facing the house with the leaded windows

    Is it number 43? It looks like that is the number on the bin

    There is no way that dropped kerb is 1m from the tree. And that is a pretty impressive angle to get to the house front.

    Shows it could be do-able.
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    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 3:29 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 3:29 PM
    Don't even think of trying to use the parking bay where the blue car is as the lead in to your off road parking, otherwise you will be posting here that someone keeps blocking your entrance.

    It would only work the other side of the tree, if there is enough space to meet all the requirements.

    You will need permission to cross (and surface it so you can cross) the grass verge area.

    Looking along the road, the one left of that house has a dropped curb and surfaced verge but nowhere for a car to go.
    Last edited by ProDave; 07-01-2018 at 3:34 PM.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 7th Jan 18, 3:30 PM
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    I think you should speak to the council. My first reaction is that it doesn't seem feasible but there are several examples in the road which contradict my opinion. However it is possible these were done "illegally" or prior to current regulations
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 7th Jan 18, 3:33 PM
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    Have you got a 5m depth of front lawn? It doesn't look like it
    • Typhoon2000
    • By Typhoon2000 7th Jan 18, 3:40 PM
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    I think that ‘ Parking Bay’is the dropped curb.
    Much like this a little further up the road
    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3979953,-0.7125313,3a,58.8y,308.18h,56.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh_BGBqjK8B5RNpJmFvVj5Q!2e0
    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 3:42 PM
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    Have you got a 5m depth of front lawn? It doesn't look like it
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    You might be right, certainly has 5m across, but depth doesn't look like 5m. I only briefly saw the house and didn't take measurements, only now that i'm looking deeper into it's looking unlikely.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 7th Jan 18, 3:44 PM
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    I agree with unforeseen, definitely not 5m.
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 3:44 PM
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    I think that ‘ Parking Bay’is the dropped curb.
    Much like this a little further up the road
    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3979953,-0.7125313,3a,58.8y,308.18h,56.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh_BGBqjK8B5RNpJmFvVj5Q!2e0
    Originally posted by Typhoon2000
    In which case you could chance it and use that for access to your front garden. But expect to get regularly blocked in, or out. Note the "please keep clear" notices, suggesting this house has had that very problem.
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 7th Jan 18, 3:45 PM
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    It looks like the only official drives are this marked with the white H lines. The others may seem to be people taking advantage of the dropped kerbs of the parking bays.
    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 3:47 PM
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    I think that ‘ Parking Bay’is the dropped curb.
    Much like this a little further up the road
    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3979953,-0.7125313,3a,58.8y,308.18h,56.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh_BGBqjK8B5RNpJmFvVj5Q!2e0
    Originally posted by Typhoon2000
    I'm surprised they allowed that one, because the lowered kerb there is for normal parking, so a space is lost. They only it could work is between the parking post a tree, but the other restriction 5m deep and 3m width could be a problem, space is there but facing the wrong way.
    • Margot123
    • By Margot123 7th Jan 18, 3:48 PM
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    Do you or a regular visitor require easy access due to a disability? Sometimes that can be a good argument. It would be a struggle up that grassy bank for anyone who is disabled.
    • Glover1862
    • By Glover1862 7th Jan 18, 3:55 PM
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    In which case you could chance it and use that for access to your front garden. But expect to get regularly blocked in, or out. Note the "please keep clear" notices, suggesting this house has had that very problem.
    Originally posted by ProDave
    I see what you mean, I hadn't considered that, that's a bit naughty but looks like others are doing it. If you did get blocked in I suppose worst case you could drive out between the post and tree, not ideal I know.

    It's actually going to be a rental property so I was looking for somewhere with parking, I suppose I'll just try to find another one.

    I'll go and take another look tomorrow, very difficult to tell from Google map.
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 4:18 PM
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    If it's rental, I doubt it would make any difference to the monthly rent value. If you do it unofficially you are storing up a problem for when the tenant can't get in our out.

    Just buy it and rent it as it is, or find a different house.
    • Aspiration
    • By Aspiration 7th Jan 18, 4:33 PM
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    Hi, I have installed a drop kerb with Northants council, the best thing you can do is call Highways and chat through it after reading the Local Hard standing document. They were brilliant on the phone and their time discussing made the whole thing considerably easier.
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