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    • crisp
    • By crisp 7th Jan 18, 11:03 AM
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    Self Build - Anyway done or doing this?
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    • 7th Jan 18, 11:03 AM
    Self Build - Anyway done or doing this? 7th Jan 18 at 11:03 AM
    I am thinking of purchasing a plot to self build our main family home.

    Apart from having to rent for a year while its going on, I would like to hear from anyone that has or is going down this route.

    I have seen a few plots on the usual portals but would like to know recommended sites for finding plots and the typical build costs as well as anything else you experienced.

    Having experience of extending and refurbishing two properties but I have never taken on something like this before and it seems daunting but exciting.
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    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 7th Jan 18, 11:26 AM
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    We’re self building this year. SIPs structure is in final design with the SIPs company.

    Plotfinder is a subscription service. I paid about £30-40 years ago for a lifetime subscription at a Homebuilding & Renovating show. It is pretty good as it focuses on plots and renovation projects in a wider area.

    We found our plot by just looking locally on Rightmove with a toothcomb. We were looking for a house with a potential plot. We did it the hard way and obtaining planning ourselves. That wasn’t much fun.

    It is daunting even though it should be easier than renovating. I’ve designed the interior down to the last mm now in Sketchup. Kitchen, sofa sizes and positions, bathrooms, built in furniture etc before we break ground. That way I know that everything will fit.

    I’m still in two minds over external finish. It’s so hard to decide.
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    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 12:15 PM
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    I am in my third year of the self build, taking so long because we are doing most of it ourselves.

    If you really want to discuss this, take a look at www.buildhub.org.uk A self build forum where you will find many, including me, in various stages of building and a wealth of help and advice.

    If your plot is big enough, do as we are and buy a static caravan to live on site rather than renting.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 7th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
    There are dozens of specialist self-build websites/forums.

    Use Bing, Google, or DuckDuckgo.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 7th Jan 18, 1:01 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:01 PM
    For self build you don't have to do it yourself. You can buy the plot and then pay someone to build a house on it for you.
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 1:33 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:33 PM
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    As to finding plots, anywhere and everywhere. We bought ours directly from the owner, it was not for sale. It took nearly 5 years of "I would like to buy your plot" every time I saw him before he eventually agreed to sell it to me.

    Build cost, you will do very well indeed if you can build for less than £1000 per square metre.

    Yes you can employ a builder to build the whole thing. A more common approach is get a builder to build the shell and then to all the inside work yourself, this is what we are doing.

    If you can point me to another self build forum other than buildhub I would like to know. We only started that because the one I was using before, ebuild, decided to close down.
    • betsie
    • By betsie 7th Jan 18, 8:16 PM
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    We finished ours last year. We bought a bungalow on a large plot and knocked it down and built a house. We lived in a caravan in the front garden while it was built (54 eps). We project managed it ourselves my oh did all the plumbing and I did all the painting. We had individual trades to do each part.
    It is easier to live on site if possible for security, deliveries and always being there to answer questions. We got the caravan on buy back agreement. Get a good architect and structural engineer.
    • PokerPlayer111
    • By PokerPlayer111 7th Jan 18, 8:36 PM
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    how much do you save on average by self building? could somebody give a % figure ?
    • chucknorris
    • By chucknorris 7th Jan 18, 8:43 PM
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    how much do you save on average by self building? could somebody give a % figure ?
    Originally posted by PokerPlayer111
    It depends in which area that you build, because geographically the land price varies much more than the build cost, so the ratio isn't constant. How much work the self builder does will also influence that ratio.
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    • nubbins
    • By nubbins 7th Jan 18, 9:05 PM
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    how much do you save on average by self building? could somebody give a % figure ?
    Originally posted by PokerPlayer111
    It just depends, you could save 20% if you got a plot at decent price and you can do some of the work yourself or know people in various trades . The problem is you are competing against a lot of different groups, builders, developers and other selfbuilders.
    If you do find a decent plot you maybe up against someone like yourself who is willing to bid say 50% of the GDV because they like the location and can configure the house to what they want rather than trying to make a profit or get a discounted priced house

    Good luck
    • crisp
    • By crisp 7th Jan 18, 9:39 PM
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    Living on site is a good idea. By self build I meant PM and painting it myself and use a builder and his team I know.

    I have checked those dedicated sites and I will be spending a lot of time on there.

    While there are many many variable, I was thinking £1000 per sq m but I have been reading £1600 upwards, which would make a serious difference. What have been other experience?

    Do you need to get an architect and/or New build certificate/guarantee to make it saleable in future?
    Last edited by crisp; 07-01-2018 at 9:44 PM.
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 7th Jan 18, 9:50 PM
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    how much do you save on average by self building? could somebody give a % figure ?
    Originally posted by PokerPlayer111
    I have so far saved about £30K by doing so much of the work myself.

    BUT that does nt mean the eventual house will be worth £30K more than it cost me. With the depressed house prices up here it probably means the house will be worth about what it cost me, rather than worth £30K less than what it cost me.

    Give your approximate location and we might have a better idea.
    • betsie
    • By betsie 8th Jan 18, 4:49 PM
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    Yes you need to get a warranty - check out build zone. A buyer won't get a mortgage on it if you need to sell in the first 10 yrs. We went with local authority to do building regs and just had build zone to do the warranty you can get them to do the building regs as well but they Often use very novice surveyors who offer no help and just cause additional stress.
    You also need site insurance as your responsible for the workers on site.
    Don't forget you can claim the vat back we have just got £21k back. Make sure you understand the rules - if paying for materials only you pay the vat and claim it back, if it's labour only or supply and fit it should be zero rated for vat. If they charge you vat incorrectly and you pay it the vat man won't give it back to you, you have to chase the supplier.
    Ours cost about £900 a sq m with us PM, doing all plumbing, painting and fitting insulation. We hired all trades separately, I spent a lot of time getting cheapest price for materials and OH cleared site every night ( something I would recommend as the trades stay tidier and stops the mice).
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