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    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 7th Jan 18, 10:43 AM
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    Using BA Avios on partner airlines
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    Using BA Avios on partner airlines 7th Jan 18 at 10:43 AM
    Planning a trip to Thailand june/July 2019, when my daughter finishes her A levels.looking at the taxes BA charge, I could buy a cash ticket for not
    much more!

    Are there any partner airlines I could use BA Avios on to fly to Thailand., and where the taxes are lower. Don't mind if I have to start my journey from outside of the Uk. In fact, I Wouldn't mind a couple of nights in Madrid or Amsterdam, to start my holiday.

    I can see a list of one world partners, but don't know how to search for award availability.


    Thanks
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    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Jan 18, 11:02 AM
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    You search in the same way on BA.com, just put the different journey in as the search.

    BA are just collecting fees and taxes for the airport and government.
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • blindman
    • By blindman 7th Jan 18, 11:38 AM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 11:38 AM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 11:38 AM
    Planning a trip to Thailand june/July 2019, when my daughter finishes her A levels.looking at the taxes BA charge, I could buy a cash ticket for not
    much more!

    Are there any partner airlines I could use BA Avios on to fly to Thailand., and where the taxes are lower. Don't mind if I have to start my journey from outside of the Uk. In fact, I Wouldn't mind a couple of nights in Madrid or Amsterdam, to start my holiday.

    I can see a list of one world partners, but don't know how to search for award availability.


    Thanks
    Originally posted by holidaysforme
    Ex_Eu tends to work cheaper for Business class seats and not economy.

    Google flights
    or
    IT Matrix can be used to price up flights from various airports.

    For Avios just search as normal but put in the airport as say AMS or DUB and see what comes up.

    I also think that Inverness is now a cheap departure point.

    Look at HeadforPoints for anything AVIOS

    Qatar should be releasing sale fares soon and they get from (say) ARN to BKK in business for a decent price
    Last edited by blindman; 07-01-2018 at 11:43 AM.
    • dj1471
    • By dj1471 7th Jan 18, 12:02 PM
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    Long haul economy is not a good use of Avios as you've found.

    If you're looking for direct flights from Europe your options are limited, Finnair from Helsinki is probably the best choice.

    If you're willing to connect there will be options with Qatar and Malaysia, but Avios prices won't be favourable compared to cash prices.
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 7th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
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    Thanks all. We have enough for business one way if there is availability.
    I've plugged in several dates to see what availability is like. Ams to Bangkok, Helsinki to Bangkok, but there are no direct flights available with any of the airlines that come up. They either stop in Honk Kong or Doha.
    Might consider buying a cash flight and upgrading with Avios instead.
    • dj1471
    • By dj1471 7th Jan 18, 6:44 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 6:44 PM
    I've plugged in several dates to see what availability is like.
    Originally posted by holidaysforme
    BA only release reward flights around 355 days before departure, so you're too soon for June 2019. I'm not sure about partner airlines.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 7th Jan 18, 6:48 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 6:48 PM
    BA are just collecting fees and taxes for the airport and government.
    Originally posted by richardw
    If only that were true! Its certainly what BA want you to think though.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 7th Jan 18, 6:52 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 6:52 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 6:52 PM
    Thanks all. We have enough for business one way if there is availability.
    I've plugged in several dates to see what availability is like. Ams to Bangkok, Helsinki to Bangkok, but there are no direct flights available with any of the airlines that come up. They either stop in Honk Kong or Doha.
    Might consider buying a cash flight and upgrading with Avios instead.
    Originally posted by holidaysforme
    Have you considered getting a BAPP Amex card? If comes with an annual fee of £195, but when you spend £10000 you get a two for one voucher, which makes Club World great value.

    BA have cheaper Avios fares on off peak dates. No off peak redemptions on One World partners.

    And check out www.headforpoints.com

    Loads of great info on there
    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Jan 18, 7:17 PM
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    If only that were true! Its certainly what BA want you to think though.
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    What’s happening then?
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • BorisThomson
    • By BorisThomson 7th Jan 18, 7:40 PM
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    What’s happening then?
    Originally posted by richardw
    BA YQ (fuel surcharge) on a business class ticket is c. £300. That goes to no one but BA!
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 7th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
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    What’s happening then?
    Originally posted by richardw
    An example from Head for points;

    "... if you try to book an Iberia Madrid to New York flight on ba.com using BA Avios, it will charge you £368 of taxes! This is for the SAME Iberia flight which costs only £159 of tax on iberia.com using Iberia Avios."
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 7th Jan 18, 8:34 PM
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    BA only release reward flights around 355 days before departure, so you're too soon for June 2019. I'm not sure about partner airlines.
    Originally posted by dj1471
    Thanks. I realise it's too early for June '19. I put in lots of random dates, including a few for this June/July just to give me an idea of what kind of availability there was.

    Can't believe that there's no direct flight from any European airport to Bangkok'-or maybe ther's just no award availability..
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 7th Jan 18, 8:38 PM
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    [QUOTE=Nick_C;73678782]Have you considered getting a BAPP Amex card? If comes with an annual fee of £195, but when you spend £10000 you get a two for one voucher, which makes Club World great value.

    BA have cheaper Avios fares on off peak dates. No off peak redemptions on One World partners.

    And check out www.headforpoints.com

    Loads of great info on there[/QUOTE

    Yes I have. I've not long cancelled my gold card. Think I need to wait six months before I apply for this one.
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 7th Jan 18, 8:48 PM
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    An example from Head for points;

    "... if you try to book an Iberia Madrid to New York flight on ba.com using BA Avios, it will charge you £368 of taxes! This is for the SAME Iberia flight which costs only £159 of tax on iberia.com using Iberia Avios."
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    Absoloutly no justification for this! Out of interest, has anyone booked North America/ Canada with Aer Lingus using BA Avios recently starting from Dublin?

    Just wondering if the taxes are still really low.
    • dj1471
    • By dj1471 7th Jan 18, 8:51 PM
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    Can't believe that there's no direct flight from any European airport to Bangkok'-or maybe ther's just no award availability..
    Originally posted by holidaysforme
    Finnair have regular flights from Helsinki to Bangkok but it's a popular route due to the lower taxes compared to the UK (especially for business class fares).

    I think they're the only Oneworld member apart from BA who fly direct to Thailand from Europe.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Jan 18, 9:35 PM
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    I'm not surprised Ba.com is showing more.

    Btw OW airline RJ operates Amman to Bangkok.
    Last edited by richardw; 07-01-2018 at 9:37 PM.
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    • sandsy
    • By sandsy 7th Jan 18, 9:50 PM
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    The American Airlines website can show you some of the options that might be available using Avios. Make sure you tick the Redeem Miles box. On random dates in June/July, it shows me options for 2travellers on BA/Finnair/ Roal Jordanian.

    But you may need to call up BA to book these routes.
    • jpsartre
    • By jpsartre 8th Jan 18, 8:19 AM
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    Yes I have. I've not long cancelled my gold card. Think I need to wait six months before I apply for this one.
    Originally posted by holidaysforme
    The Gold card and the BA cards are different. You can have both at the same time and get the same-up bonus for both as well.
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 8th Jan 18, 8:41 AM
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    The American Airlines website can show you some of the options that might be available using Avios. Make sure you tick the Redeem Miles box. On random dates in June/July, it shows me options for 2travellers on BA/Finnair/ Roal Jordanian.

    But you may need to call up BA to book these routes.
    Originally posted by sandsy
    Thanks. Do I have to have an AA account to search? For instance, for US and Canada Aer Lingus reward availability, I use United airlines to search, but I don't need to have an account.
    • holidaysforme
    • By holidaysforme 8th Jan 18, 8:42 AM
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    The Gold card and the BA cards are different. You can have both at the same time and get the same-up bonus for both as well.
    Originally posted by jpsartre
    That's great news. I'll get on to it.
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