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    • RED KEN
    • By RED KEN 5th Jan 18, 5:39 PM
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    Meter Reading Scam ?.
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    • 5th Jan 18, 5:39 PM
    Meter Reading Scam ?. 5th Jan 18 at 5:39 PM
    Just had a phone call asking for meter readings. Caller did not know who I was or the name of the energy company I am with --- and no I did not tell her or give out my readings.
    Is this a scam? and how does it work.
    Last edited by RED KEN; 05-01-2018 at 5:42 PM. Reason: missing word
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    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 5th Jan 18, 6:30 PM
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    Just had a phone call asking for meter readings. Caller did not know who I was or the name of the energy company I am with --- and no I did not tell her or give out my readings.
    Is this a scam? and how does it work.
    Originally posted by RED KEN
    The caller was, I assume, from one of the meter reading companies that suppliers use to read meters. I cannot see that telling someone that my meter reads 58021 is going to cause any data protection problems. You were probably out when they called to read your meter.
    • RED KEN
    • By RED KEN 5th Jan 18, 7:54 PM
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    Well I supply my readings on line the last reading being 2 weeks ago and I have my bill for these readings. How come the caller did not know who I was where I was and the name of my energy company. I think it goes like this. After giving my readings can you please confirm your name address and the energy company you are with. Next thing you get email from your energy company saying sorry you are leaving us, and when you say why would I want to they say well why did give your particulars and your meter reading to XYZ company over the phone.
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    • By gardner1 5th Jan 18, 7:56 PM
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    Well I supply my readings on line the last reading being 2 weeks ago and I have my bill for these readings. How come the caller did not know who I was where I was and the name of my energy company. I think it goes like this. After giving my readings can you please confirm your name address and the energy company you are with. Next thing you get email from your energy company saying sorry you are leaving us, and when you say why would I want to they say well why did give your particulars and your meter reading to XYZ company over the phone.
    Originally posted by RED KEN
    In which case you could have some fun giving them made up details
    • House Martin
    • By House Martin 5th Jan 18, 8:33 PM
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    I used to make plenty of calls asking for meter readings or to make an appointment to see the meters, but as a meter reader I had full access to every detail of the occupiers meters, supplier, name and address, position of meter and other personal details including passwords.
    Sounds like some scam. Maybe someone wanted to know if occupier is at home
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 5th Jan 18, 8:35 PM
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    Just had a phone call asking for meter readings. Caller did not know who I was or the name of the energy company I am with --- and no I did not tell her or give out my readings.
    Is this a scam? and how does it work.
    Originally posted by RED KEN
    Worry not, I don't think it could be a scam
    Providing anyone with your meter readings only cannot be used to scam you.
    My meters are outside (as are a significant number of others meters) and anyone could go to the meater and read it (especially if they have a meter cupboard key)

    It's probably the meter reader appointed by your energy supplier, who was unabe to read your meter as (a) no one was in and (b) access was required to be able to read the meter.
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 5th Jan 18, 8:38 PM
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    Well I supply my readings on line the last reading being 2 weeks ago and I have my bill for these readings. How come the caller did not know who I was where I was and the name of my energy company. ....
    Originally posted by RED KEN
    If it was a meter reader, your supplier would not usually give the meter reader your name (there is usually no reason for them to have it)

    The meter reader probably works for a number of different suppliers in your region, so would not necessarily know who your supplier is. They don't need to know that either.
    • House Martin
    • By House Martin 5th Jan 18, 8:55 PM
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    If it was a meter reader, your supplier would not usually give the meter reader your name (there is usually no reason for them to have it)

    The meter reader probably works for a number of different suppliers in your region, so would not necessarily know who your supplier is. They don't need to know that either.
    Originally posted by footyguy
    We meter readers always get full details of all names/addresses and many other details.
    Sometimes the supplier themselves do not have the names then we just get "occupier or occupant "It could nt work any other way when we are cold calling
    We certainly need the suppliers name too.Would be impossible getting the trust of anyone if we did nt have full info, including special passwords the occupant had set up.
    .I work for dozens of different suppliers and we always have whatever details the supplier furnishes us with, does nt vary too much.
    Some of the smaller suppliers such as Spark are not very good in furnishing types of meter or serial numbers
    Last edited by House Martin; 07-01-2018 at 6:37 PM.
    • chiny
    • By chiny 6th Jan 18, 11:06 AM
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    If in doubt, politely dismiss the call, safest. If wished, then call the energy company with readings (if they accept readings over the phone). Or just await the next legit reading request.

    A few months ago, I politely refused a request from a bloke who looked like a meter reader stood at my front door, as he could not show proof that his company worked for the energy company with which I have a contract. Days after I'd entered the meter readings online, I noticed "Customer reading" got changed to "Meter read"... I'd assumed my refusal would be reported as "Customer out" but presumably that would damage someone's statistics.
    • RED KEN
    • By RED KEN 6th Jan 18, 5:15 PM
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    Many thanks for your posts. I still think it could have been somebody working on commission only cold calling to sign you up for a new energy company. With the details of self plus the name of your current provider they can do this. If just one in 30 calls is a hit at £100 in commission, not bad for a days work.
    Much better than the £80 a day apparently made by the beggars sitting outside Poundland in my home town.
    • diane***
    • By diane*** 7th Jan 18, 9:20 AM
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    some callers are burglars , my policy is , do not give out any details at all to someone who you do not know nor have solicited the call...........
    I tell lies, I say I rent to window sales or government grant people, i'm a visitor/house sitter. ... it's just awful isn't it, you need to be so smart to hang on to your cash these days
    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 7th Jan 18, 11:40 AM
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    Many thanks for your posts. I still think it could have been somebody working on commission only cold calling to sign you up for a new energy company. With the details of self plus the name of your current provider they can do this. If just one in 30 calls is a hit at £100 in commission, not bad for a days work.
    Much better than the £80 a day apparently made by the beggars sitting outside Poundland in my home town.
    Originally posted by RED KEN
    You are with respect missing a key point. All suppliers are required to provide customers with written details of the tariff etc that they have signed up to. All contracts have a 'cooling off' period of 14 days. Losing suppliers tend to notify people that a transfer is in progress. I fail to see how just giving someone a meter reading could result in the transfer of a supply. As others have pointed out, if it was that easy to make £100 then there would hoards of people going round looking for information from external meter boxes.
    • RED KEN
    • By RED KEN 7th Jan 18, 6:15 PM
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    Its not just the meter reading they have got out of you . Its your name, address and the name of your current energy provider .Then comes the hard sell and before you know it you have agreed to a transfer. What you have to remember these cold callers tend to target the older generation.
    How old is that for me ?, well old enough to remember the last proper snow we had in England, the winter of 1946/47
    A friend of mine got caught out this way a few years ago. Before he knew it he was reduced to turning off his heating and living and sleeping in one room with just a single bar electric heater.
    Truth was he was reluctant to own up to what he had done.
    • However
    • By However 7th Jan 18, 6:18 PM
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    I've had phone calls too, on a couple of occasions. They didn't know my name, they didn't know my address; they didn't know the utility company. They just wanted a meter reading. I told them to get lost. I also did some research and hunted out that they are some sort of quasi-kosher third-party meter reading outfit. I was unaware of their name, I did not enter into any contract with them, nor did I give consent to my utility company for an unknown third-party to ask me for meter readings via an unsolicited phonecall. It may not be a scam but it's sharp practice - apparently they are supposed to physically eyeball the meter on behalf of the utility company but instead they phone up and gain their commission that way. I don't care whether that's true or not - these days data is valuable, so I'm repeatedly told in the media, so if someone wants info from me, they can jolly-well pay me handsomely for it (in advance) or get stuffed.
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