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    • valdorcia
    • By valdorcia 4th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
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    Fluttering Ticket - UK Parking Ltd
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    • 4th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
    Fluttering Ticket - UK Parking Ltd 4th Jan 18 at 6:07 PM
    Fluttering ticket at Castle Car Park, WIndsor

    1. Valid parking ticket flipped upside down on 7 October 2017.
    2. PCN on windscreen on 7 October 2017.
    3. PCN Parking Solutions appeal with photographic evidence on 7 October 2017 - rejected.
    4. IAS appeal rejected on 11 November 2017.
    5. Letter received from Ultimate Customer Solutions on 5 December 2017.

    Unfortunately, I have found this forum and read the FAQ's for Newbies after the above events and making all the mistakes... i.e. driver name and address, etc.

    The initial charge was £60, increased to £100 after 14 days, and increased again to £160 on the debt collector's letter.

    I am going to ignore the letter as suggested but concerned how this will pan out considering mistakes that I made earlier.

    If this case goes to court what are the chances that I will win and in the worst case, a rough idea of additional cost will incur if I loose.

    I would be grateful if you can advise on best course of action and the likely outcome of the above.

    Thank you for reading
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 4th Jan 18, 6:16 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 6:16 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 6:16 PM
    Some reading


    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/213982109-Fluttering-Ticket-Robodefence


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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 4th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 6:19 PM
    The newbies faq thread explains what next after appeals fail.


    If you do get a court claim then that thread does show you how to defend as well as a walkthrough the court procedure


    If you do end up with a court hearing and win you can hope for your expenses attending court plus any other allowable expenses (though loss of earnings is capped)


    If you lose then reckon on around £175
    • valdorcia
    • By valdorcia 5th Jan 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 1:52 PM
    Thank you The Deep, very helpful indeed. I wonder if any court claims won in the past for the fluttering ticket case. I noted council PCN are more accommodating than the PPC, and also never come across any successful stories for cases relate to the PPC...
    • valdorcia
    • By valdorcia 5th Jan 18, 2:05 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 2:05 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 2:05 PM
    The newbies faq thread explains what next after appeals fail.


    If you do get a court claim then that thread does show you how to defend as well as a walkthrough the court procedure


    If you do end up with a court hearing and win you can hope for your expenses attending court plus any other allowable expenses (though loss of earnings is capped)


    If you lose then reckon on around £175
    Originally posted by Quentin
    Thank you for your notes Quentin. I will try to follow the guides when it comes to the next stage. I take £175 is the expenses on top of what the PPC claim for? - in this case the final account would likely be £100 or more I guess, but on what account? This is all scam in the first place but is there any justification in the charge going up from £60 to £160 or more? There is no actual loss to the PPC since I have already paid the parking fee of £8...
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 5th Jan 18, 6:51 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 6:51 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 6:51 PM
    The justification is : that’s how much they want to get from you. Your review of cases will have shown it’s all made up rubbish.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 5th Jan 18, 7:05 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 7:05 PM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 7:05 PM
    As you say, it is a scam, and judges are increasing recognizing it as such and finding for the defendant, some reading

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=fluttering+ticket +prankster&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_en-GBGB707GB707&q=fluttering+ticket+prankster&gs_l=hp ..0.0.0.0.0.18064...........0.CJkfUQw_AZc&gws_rd=s sl

    There may be ways to hurt the PPC, read about counterclaiming for harassment, stress, breach of the Data Protection Act, and unreasonable conduct costs.
    Last edited by The Deep; 06-01-2018 at 6:18 PM.
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