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    • BrandNewStart
    • By BrandNewStart 3rd Jan 18, 5:46 PM
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    Replace or repair?
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    • 3rd Jan 18, 5:46 PM
    Replace or repair? 3rd Jan 18 at 5:46 PM
    Evenin' all

    My Ford Focus Econetic (2010, 85000 miles) broke down before Xmas. After much toing and froing Ok finally have a quote for repair of £1500

    The car (when working) is valued at £1500 for part ex.

    I suspect the clutch is on the way out too and have been advised this will cost another £700.

    Not sure what to do! Should I get a new one? Or get the repair done and keep going?

    I would be looking to get a newish Polo or the like probably.
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    • Muscle750
    • By Muscle750 3rd Jan 18, 5:49 PM
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    • 3rd Jan 18, 5:49 PM
    What exactly is wrong with it apart from the clutch about to go AWOL.
    • BrandNewStart
    • By BrandNewStart 4th Jan 18, 9:38 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 9:38 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 9:38 AM
    It needs a new turbo, the DPF cleaning, new fuel pipe, etc etc...
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    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 4th Jan 18, 10:15 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 10:15 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 10:15 AM
    Was it a Friday evening build? That's a young car to be considering uneconomical to repair. Has it been serviced regularly? You also need to look at your mileage and see if diesel is right for your useage
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 4th Jan 18, 10:35 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 10:35 AM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 10:35 AM
    How much will it cost you to replace it with an equivalent? Will that equivalent need work, too?

    I'd err on the side of caution and repair it if you like the car and it's otherwise good. If it's been unreliable up until now and a bit crap, then I'd be inclined to scrap it any try something else.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 4th Jan 18, 4:24 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 4:24 PM
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    Well you could get a newish Polo but the first year's depreciation will cost more than your repairs and it'll cost you the thick end of £1000 in lost money if you sell it broken.

    Turbos are not dear, a couple of hundred quid for a guaranteed reconditioned one plus an hours labour. Clutch quote sounds about right.

    If the DPF filter is clogged at that mileage though it suggests fairly short journeys so may I suggest you buy a petrol car next time? Just out of interest why are they saying the filter is blocked? I ask because there's a common fault on Fords where the rubber pipes that go from two small metal pipes from the DPF filter to the DPF pressure sensors go hard and split over time and it throws up the same fault code as a blocked DPF filter. Had that on my Mondeo a few months ago. Cost of replacing the hose was so little the garage didn't charge me for it and just charged me 30 minutes labour.
    • BrandNewStart
    • By BrandNewStart 4th Jan 18, 4:39 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 4:39 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 4:39 PM
    Was it a Friday evening build? That's a young car to be considering uneconomical to repair. Has it been serviced regularly? You also need to look at your mileage and see if diesel is right for your useage
    Originally posted by Mercdriver
    Well you could get a newish Polo but the first year's depreciation will cost more than your repairs and it'll cost you the thick end of £1000 in lost money if you sell it broken.

    Turbos are not dear, a couple of hundred quid for a guaranteed reconditioned one plus an hours labour. Clutch quote sounds about right.

    If the DPF filter is clogged at that mileage though it suggests fairly short journeys so may I suggest you buy a petrol car next time? Just out of interest why are they saying the filter is blocked? I ask because there's a common fault on Fords where the rubber pipes that go from two small metal pipes from the DPF filter to the DPF pressure sensors go hard and split over time and it throws up the same fault code as a blocked DPF filter. Had that on my Mondeo a few months ago. Cost of replacing the hose was so little the garage didn't charge me for it and just charged me 30 minutes labour.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    Hi Tarambor,

    The filter was genuinely blocked I think. There was oil in places it shouldn't be! I will definitely go for petrol next time! The car was initially bought to commute with but then I moved much nearer work. I had no idea about the low mileage thing before this though.

    I am now thinking I will keep for the time being. It has been pretty good really before this.

    Mercdriver, unfortunately not serviced regularly, just for MOT or when something goes wrong - I was getting out of debt and couldn't afford it.
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    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 5th Jan 18, 7:37 AM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 7:37 AM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 7:37 AM
    I'd consider putting a recon turbo on it. Gutting and mapping the dpf. The 1.6 can be picked up for a ton. Dpf may have to be taken elsewhere to be done. But all in all you should be looking well below a thousand quid. In fact looking at a few hundred short of a thousand quid.

    As for the clutch. I wouldn't be surprised if that price could be dragged down to about 500 at a local independent. They are not difficult, just a bit time consuming as subframes comes down. But like the Mondeo prices can be wild, 500-1200 depending on who you ask. Of course it then gets more expensive if you need a new flywheel as well at 300-500
    Last edited by arcon5; 05-01-2018 at 7:39 AM.
    • facade
    • By facade 5th Jan 18, 9:31 AM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 9:31 AM
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    • 5th Jan 18, 9:31 AM
    Is the car fitted with the 1.6 PSA engine? The one where the turbo repeatedly fails because of carbon build up in the engine that you can never get rid of?

    If it is, get rid with all the other work it needs.

    Ford were supposed to have "cured" the repeated turbo failure problem in 2010 with modified oilways in the engine, a 2010 car may or may not have the modified engine.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • BrandNewStart
    • By BrandNewStart 5th Jan 18, 9:26 PM
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    Urgh I hope not, façade. It's being repaired now anyway...
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