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    • castle96
    • By castle96 7th Dec 17, 12:37 PM
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    Fit gas fire on outside wall ?
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    Fit gas fire on outside wall ? 7th Dec 17 at 12:37 PM
    I currently have a small gas heater
    https://www.travisperkins.co.uk/Baxi-Brazilia-F5S-Natural-Gas-Wall-Heater-Beige-Oak-243160/p/834372
    fitted in the lounge on an outside wall, directly underneath a window. Been there for years. It's a back up to the c/hating. It takes ages to heat up and only heats one room.
    Is it possible/legal, to fit a 'proper' gas fire there ? A conventional 3 or 4 bar thing. The flue would go through the same hole in the wall ? Is it the same shape ? Would I have to fit a tube/flue up to a cetain height / (Messy/looks bad/impractical) Or must the flue go up a chimney (don't have one). Legality ? Practicality ?
    thanks
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    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 7th Dec 17, 12:59 PM
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    You can get balanced flue fires with all different sized flues, the problem you will have is the window. It will need to be a certain distance away from it, I’ll check but top of my head it’s 300mm or what ever the manufacturer states in the instructions.

    I’d have a look for a few different balances flue gas fires online, don’t worry if you like them or not just have a look at the installation instructions and it will tell you the terminal distances from windows etc. This will give you a ideal of weather you will be able to do it or not. I would think it will not be possible.
    • castle96
    • By castle96 7th Dec 17, 1:21 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 1:21 PM
    thanks alex, will look. Currently the flue is about 300mm from the bottom of the window, though a new hole could be knocked through to lower the flue exit and increase the distance from the window
    Last edited by castle96; 07-12-2017 at 2:29 PM.
    • cranford
    • By cranford 7th Dec 17, 1:34 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 1:34 PM
    From the valor web site you can get the installation manual that shows you the distances for this model.
    http://www.valor.co.uk/assets/kb/operating_instructions/0/048_Brazilia_Installation_Instructions_Issue_3.pdf

    If you shop around you can find the same heater for up to £100 less - will pay for the gas engineer!
    • castle96
    • By castle96 7th Dec 17, 2:31 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 2:31 PM
    http://www.diy.com/departments/focal-point-piano-flue-less-black-manual-control-wall-hung-gas-fire/35113_BQ.prd

    something like this would be ideal, though you have to have a bloo"y great vent to the outside elements, dont you. Any other gas fire seems to be a hearth type thing now. What happend to the sit on the wall, 3/4 bar type ?
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 7th Dec 17, 2:37 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 2:37 PM
    That’s a flueless fire, the POC’s are cleaned with a catalytic converter and put back into the room. You will need no flue but a vent would need to be fitted.
    • castle96
    • By castle96 7th Dec 17, 2:52 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 2:52 PM
    "100cub cm" vent needed. Thats a 6" dia hole to the outside elements,, isn't it ?
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