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    • fozzeh
    • By fozzeh 7th Dec 17, 12:07 PM
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    Has anyone used Clearview or Everest for a garden room?
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:07 PM
    Has anyone used Clearview or Everest for a garden room? 7th Dec 17 at 12:07 PM
    We are struggling to find a local builder who can do an extension for us- they are basically all booked up for the next 12 months. So we are considering using the likes of Clearview or Everest who apparently do orangeries/garden rooms and not just conservatories.

    Just wondered, have any of you used them for a garden room or orangery and if so what was your experience? How reasonable were they? Is there anything we should know/ask?
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    • TheCyclingProgrammer
    • By TheCyclingProgrammer 7th Dec 17, 12:11 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:11 PM
    By garden room, do you mean a standalone detached building or something like a conservatory?
    • fozzeh
    • By fozzeh 7th Dec 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:16 PM
    Sorry, I mean that it carries on from the house. It's more energy efficient than a conservatory, it's more akin to an extension.
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 7th Dec 17, 12:18 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:18 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:18 PM
    Sorry, I mean that it carries on from the house. It's more energy efficient than a conservatory, it's more akin to an extension.
    Originally posted by fozzeh

    How do you know? Does it meet building regulations?
    • fozzeh
    • By fozzeh 7th Dec 17, 12:21 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:21 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:21 PM
    Because it's built with a tile roof, it's a different kind of build. We already have building planning permission for a full extension so it would meet criteria anyway.

    What I'm interested in is peoples' experiences of this company.

    Thank you
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 7th Dec 17, 12:24 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:24 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:24 PM
    Because it's built with a tile roof, it's a different kind of build. We already have building planning permission for a full extension so it would meet criteria anyway.

    What I'm interested in is peoples' experiences of this company.

    Thank you
    Originally posted by fozzeh

    I didn't ask about planning permission.


    I was genuinely interested in how you knew that it was more energy efficient and, if so, by how much.
    Last edited by LandyAndy; 07-12-2017 at 12:27 PM.
    • fozzeh
    • By fozzeh 7th Dec 17, 12:25 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:25 PM
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    No, neither did I.

    I'm just asking about peoples' experiences with this company.

    Thanks
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 7th Dec 17, 12:31 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:31 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:31 PM
    We are struggling to find a local builder who can do an extension for us- they are basically all booked up for the next 12 months. So we are considering using the likes of Clearview or Everest who apparently do orangeries/garden rooms and not just conservatories.

    Just wondered, have any of you used them for a garden room or orangery and if so what was your experience? How reasonable were they? Is there anything we should know/ask?
    Originally posted by fozzeh

    I haven't used them for those things but I did have Everest fit a roofline to my previous house. Seemed decent quality and the fitters did a sound job.


    They do have a reputation for being expensive and poor for fitting for replacement windows compared to local independents.


    I have recently had an extension built. My advice would be to have a proper extension built even if you have to wait a while to get it done. Not that you want that advice obv.


    'Build in haste, repent at leisure' as the old saying nearly goes.
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 7th Dec 17, 12:34 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:34 PM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 12:34 PM
    No, neither did I.

    I'm just asking about peoples' experiences with this company.

    Thanks
    Originally posted by fozzeh
    <sigh> .
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 7th Dec 17, 2:17 PM
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    You’re being sold an inferior product, nondoubt for the same price as a proper extension by these people. They charge the earth and don’t provide a personal service. You have no way of checking the past work of the subcontractors building for you as you won’t know who they are.

    Simply the fact that they’re selling you something ‘akin to an extension’ which is certainly not akin to an extension tells me everything I need to know.

    You need to wait for good builders. Be patient, get the best product for your money that will add value to your house, not a glorified conservatory that doesn’t meet Building Regulations for an extension.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 7th Dec 17, 2:33 PM
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    Everest got a slating from Which Magazine around 14 months ago - as did Anglian and Safestyle. The verdict was use local, trusted companies.

    A chap down the road had, cannot recall if it was Anglian or Everest now, doing his work. Cost a fortune, he was ripped off to an eye watering extent and the work dragged on for months because of poor workmanship, unreliable sub contractors and all round incompetence.

    Orangery or Garden Room is generally marketing BS for non compliant, non regulated construction where anything goes. The savvy decision is an extension, and if one is equally savvy value can be achieved which can make many folks conservatories look grossly over priced.

    My sun room cost a fraction of what many folks spend on a conservatory, and the build quality is light years ahead of any conservatory.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 7th Dec 17, 3:18 PM
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    Clearview have a film clip on their website. Chris Mitchell starts it off with the sales spin, the customers give the usual nonsense about turning up on time and working hard. Quality, accreditation, and working practices are not mentioned. Neither is safety, and of course we all know why.

    Clearly neither Chris Mitchell, nor the customers, have an ounce of decency, nor an ounce of common sense. The film clip is a brazen, in your face advert saying "we do not worry about scaffolding, we do not worry about edge protection, our operatives walk all over the light weight roof and if they fall through, or if they fall off, who cares? Whats a fatality here and there when there are gullible and naive customers around? Who cares about safety when there is a good profit to be made?

    Of course there are cowboys out there. Of course this is all unregulated work. But to publicly broadcast a two fingers in the air attitude to safety takes some nerve!

    But of course it goes much further. Under the CDM Regulations the couple on the film clip would have been under investigation by the HSE had an accident occurred. If they had not followed the Law they would be prosecuted. They are culpable. They allowed this to happen. Why spoil what appears to be a retired life by getting involved with illegal working practices?

    All round I am left speechless, yet OP is considering this bunch of cowboys for work on their home!
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