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    • joAnn
    • By joAnn 6th Dec 17, 8:23 AM
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    Landlord taking the .....?!
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    • 6th Dec 17, 8:23 AM
    Landlord taking the .....?! 6th Dec 17 at 8:23 AM
    We asked our landlord for 2 additional keys - daughter mislaid one and new au pair needed one. Happy to pay the money banham charged for new keys plus cover cost of secure postage. Landlord sent me receipts for keys and postage amounting to £42.65 but then asked me to round up to £45 to cover cost of time and transportation to nearest banham Office. I'm a bit shocked! I don't mind the £2odd but I do feel slightly as if we are being squeezed for every penny and not sure how to respond?!
    Any suggestions?
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 6th Dec 17, 12:58 PM
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    What is your point?
    Originally posted by joAnn
    Some friendly advice.

    If you don't appeciate the tone or content of some responses, ignore them. Don't encourage farther debate on those points by responding, especially rsponding with a question!
    • joAnn
    • By joAnn 6th Dec 17, 1:06 PM
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    Some friendly advice.

    If you don't appeciate the tone or content of some responses, ignore them. Don't encourage farther debate on those points by responding, especially rsponding with a question!
    Originally posted by G_M
    Thank you, I just don't understand why some people get so nasty!
    • Cheeky_Monkey
    • By Cheeky_Monkey 6th Dec 17, 1:11 PM
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    Cheeky_Monkey
    Can you explain how this comment is relevant? Until you know my circumstances, or what our arrangements are, please refrain from making speculative judgments.
    Originally posted by joAnn
    If you don't like the fact that people are commenting on the fact that you have an au pair, then you shouldn't have mentioned it in your OP as it was completely irrelevant anyway - another lesson learned eh?
    I used to be indecisive - now I'm not so sure
    • theartfullodger
    • By theartfullodger 6th Dec 17, 1:18 PM
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    How much are you paying your au pair? NI and tax sorted? Got the right insurance cover as an employer?

    (I ask, having been an employer of an au pair in a previous existence)
    • saajan_12
    • By saajan_12 6th Dec 17, 1:45 PM
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    We asked our landlord for 2 additional keys - daughter mislaid one - ok, an accident but you're responsible for the cost of replacing the lock & same number of keys as before and new au pair needed one- sure, all yours as long as you pay for the key.
    . Happy to pay the money banham charged for new keys plus cover cost of secure postage- what about the other costs? . Landlord sent me receipts for keys and postage amounting to £42.65 but then asked me to round up to £45 to cover cost of time and transportation to nearest banham Office- that's generous, the petrol alone would likely use most of the £2.35, before you even get started on time.
    . I'm a bit shocked! I don't mind the £2odd but I do feel slightly as if we are being squeezed for every penny - if you're not willing to cover the LL's costs for your mistakes/requests, sounds like you're squeezing for every penny. and not sure how to respond?!
    Any suggestions?
    Originally posted by joAnn
    The lost key is an accident but you are responsible for any resulting costs to replace the lock and keys. The point of a Banham lock is to ensure all keys are accounted for.. else when there are new tenants, you could find the misplaced key and let yourself back in! The additional key is a request beyond the initial agreement to rent, so the LL can fairly charge for the cost (or whatever you negotiate).

    Costs include
    - cost of new lock
    - cost of additional keys to replace each existing key
    - cost of additional key for au pair
    - cost of fitting lock & removing old one
    - postage / transport costs
    - LL's time to get quotes, get keys cut
    • joAnn
    • By joAnn 6th Dec 17, 1:49 PM
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    How much are you paying your au pair? NI and tax sorted? Got the right insurance cover as an employer?

    (I ask, having been an employer of an au pair in a previous existence)
    Originally posted by theartfullodger
    Unbelievable that some people need to go off on this sort of tangent!
    MYOB!
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Dec 17, 2:07 PM
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    You appear to be begrudging a business £2.35 to cover the expenses they incur through your household's untidiness and an increase in your household employees.

    There's two ways to look at that "tangent".
    The first is that it's a genuine attempt to help you understand legal requirements you may not fully appreciate.
    The other is less charitable - but, in the circumstances, I don't think idly wondering if your stinginess extends to breaking employment law is entirely unreasonable, do you?

    Your defensiveness suggests the latter may not be inappropriate.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 6th Dec 17, 2:14 PM
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    Your Daughter should pay something as they lost it.


    I do feel slightly as if we are being squeezed for every penny.
    Any suggestions?
    Originally posted by joAnn
    We also overpaid them once £2.50 and they asked for my bank details to repay it but I let it go!
    Originally posted by joAnn

    Failing to see it myself.
    • joAnn
    • By joAnn 6th Dec 17, 2:21 PM
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    Yes I am stingy!
    The au pair, who obviously doesn't keep my house clean enough (how dare she) and incapable of finding a tiny missing key gets a very generous £1.50 a month! She sleeps on a sack in the shed (windows broken - oops!). We feed her food left over from the kids plates, if she's lucky that day. What else? No freedom, blankets, cultural. No way!! I'm too tight for that! What's the point of insurance? NI & Tax???? Excuse me?
    Phew. Now you all know my extremely generous package, and have had your two bits worth, I shall withdraw from this thread and count all my pennies in case I dropped one!
    Good day!
    • joAnn
    • By joAnn 6th Dec 17, 2:30 PM
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    Your Daughter should pay something as they lost it.







    Failing to see it myself.
    Originally posted by cjdavies
    I guess the money they want to round up is more or less covered by the couple of quid we have on 'credit!'
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 6th Dec 17, 4:09 PM
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    Thank you, I just don't understand why some people get so nasty!
    Originally posted by joAnn

    I suspect it may stem from the title of your thread....clearly when you set it you felt you were being taken for a ride ....or that the LL was extorting money unreasonably.

    Perhaps if you want level advice then be a little more considerate about how you phrase things....it's not always easy to judge the tone of the written word .

    I'm suddenly reminded of the poster yesterday,her query was daughter related too!!! who when they didn't like the general responses took offence at quite respected posters comments

    by post 30 it's clearly toys out of the pram
    I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.
    Last edited by LEJC; 06-12-2017 at 4:14 PM.
    frugal October...£41.82 of £40 food shopping spend for the 2 of us!

    2017 toiletries challenge 160 out 139 in ...£18.64 spend
    • theartfullodger
    • By theartfullodger 6th Dec 17, 5:58 PM
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    Unbelievable that some people need to go off on this sort of tangent!
    MYOB!
    Originally posted by joAnn
    Thank you so much for your kind words. Merry Xmas to all my readers.

    NB It's not a tangent: (Artful, MA, Maths...)
    • ViolaLass
    • By ViolaLass 6th Dec 17, 6:10 PM
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    Thank you so much for your kind words. Merry Xmas to all my readers.

    NB It's not a tangent: (Artful, MA, Maths...)
    Originally posted by theartfullodger
    This maths teacher points out that tangents have meaning outside maths too. The literary meaning was clearly the one that applied in this case.


    Did several of you get out of bed on the wrong side today?
    • lewishardwick
    • By lewishardwick 6th Dec 17, 6:25 PM
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    Knowing how expensive Banham locks are, you're very lucky he's not asking for them to be replaced!
    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 6th Dec 17, 7:42 PM
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    This maths teacher points out that tangents have meaning outside maths too. The literary meaning was clearly the one that applied in this case.


    Did several of you get out of bed on the wrong side today?
    Originally posted by ViolaLass
    Yay - that's brilliant!

    I can tell that you're used to dealing with bolshy kids. (Which seems to be the right kind of level for some of the contributors here.)

    I think letters home to parents and carers should be the next step.
    • dacouch
    • By dacouch 6th Dec 17, 7:44 PM
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    As a landlord if a key is mislaid I'd replace the lock, more expensive.

    £5 says YOUR insurance won't pay out if stuff is stolen without forced entry & key mislaid.

    Oh the stress of the new au-pair:. Poor you.

    This isn't a wind up is it?
    Originally posted by theartfullodger
    I'll take that bet
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