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    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 12:48 PM
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    Maybe Linux!
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    • 5th Dec 17, 12:48 PM
    Maybe Linux! 5th Dec 17 at 12:48 PM
    While I am very taken with the appearance of Windows 7N, after happily using Vista for years, it does appear that I cannot buy a Key, to legitimize it. Activation required within 10 days.
    So, at the mo' on the Zorin distro page, considering downloading it.
    Can I ask you experts if a simple download will, first do absolutely nothing until I attempt to install it. And second, be able to install, while keeping 7 in the short term, and then my original Vista, still useable, if all else fails?
    Thanks for your comments
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    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 5th Dec 17, 1:17 PM
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    Don't download Zorin. Go for Linux Mint, either Mate or Cinnamon (I prefer Cinnamon) or Ubuntu and 64 bit in either case if your PC supports 64 bit.

    When you are installing the installer gives you the option to run alongside Windows.



    When you install using that option every time you start the PC you will be presented with a boot menu asking which OS you wish to run.
    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 2:26 PM
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    Thank you Tarambor.
    I would have to go for 32 bit. Also, am I to assume that when Win 7 defaults to it's non activated level, it will present as a viable option on your boot up scheme?
    • fenlander_uk
    • By fenlander_uk 5th Dec 17, 2:53 PM
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    As your PC is limited to 32-bit it's fair to assume it's rather old and probably not very powerful. If that is the case Mint Mate, rather than Cinnamon, may be preferable. Mint is less hungry than Cinnamon.

    I moved a ten-year old Toshiba laptop to Mint Mate a couple of years ago and I was so pleased with the result that I also installed it on my much more recent - and powerful - Lenovo. My personal choice is to backup the existing OS then commit the machine fully to Linux, rather than use a dual boot. For me, dual booting Windows is a crutch I might find too tempting any time there is a problem, whereas I should be sorting out a solution in Mint.
    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 3:11 PM
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    • 5th Dec 17, 3:11 PM
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    • 5th Dec 17, 3:11 PM
    Thanks fenlander
    It is a Dell Inspiron, maybe eight years old. Having just run Belarc Advisor, I can say it has a 2.4 gig Intel Core 2 E4600 processor. I have just noticed that it is 64 bit ready, whatever that means!
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 5th Dec 17, 3:17 PM
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    • 5th Dec 17, 3:17 PM
    Thanks fenlander
    It is a Dell Inspiron, maybe eight years old. Having just run Belarc Advisor, I can say it has a 2.4 gig Intel Core 2 E4600 processor. I have just noticed that it is 64 bit ready, whatever that means!
    Originally posted by David Aston
    means it'll run 64-bit operating systems
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 5th Dec 17, 3:44 PM
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    Debian Running Gnome

    The best linux experience on the planet. No exceptions.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 5th Dec 17, 3:45 PM
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    If it's old and slow, try Xubuntu, very very good on older hardware. If it's REALLY old, use Lubuntu, can bring dreadful hardware (By modern standards) back to life in ways that might surprise you.
    • Debbie Savard
    • By Debbie Savard 5th Dec 17, 3:46 PM
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    • 5th Dec 17, 3:46 PM
    >I have just noticed that it is 64 bit ready, whatever that means!<

    I think Linux isn't for you. Just saying.
    Last edited by Debbie Savard; 05-12-2017 at 3:48 PM.
    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 4:00 PM
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    I have no problem with your comment Debbie. A 74 year old man who has contentedly used 98 and then Vista, and now this un-activatable 7. If you are saying Linux is too techie for me, you are no doubt right. So, I have downloaded Linux Mint 32 bit, burned it onto a DVD, and just now have to decide how I can sample it without burning all my boats!
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 5th Dec 17, 4:03 PM
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    ....
    I think Linux isn't for you. Just saying.
    Originally posted by Debbie Savard
    hardly just saying is it, anyway David you could always try any of the many of the Linux operating systems that come with a "live" option which you can run from a USB and then decide if it is for you
    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 4:11 PM
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    Thank you debitcard
    In fact I have just downloaded Mint, into the computer downloads folder, from thence to a flash drive, at which point it did tell me to burn it onto a DVD. As you can see, I have given myself a right run around. Just a question now, of daring to run the DVD and see what occurs!
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 5th Dec 17, 4:17 PM
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    You can probably sample it from the disc without installing via the boot menu on start up. I installed linux mint on a 10 year old pc as xp is not supported. It generally works fine but there are problems which seem common, no sound, printer problems, wireless problems etc. Biggest problem I found with Linux is getting help online. Everyone who offers help expects you to "open a terminal" and type code. Great if you enjoy that but its not for me. I found problems easier to resolve using windows. Windows tends to be more functionally complete which is to be expected as a paid for product.

    Dual boot install is easy but is difficult to remove if you change your mind.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 5th Dec 17, 4:18 PM
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    ? How did you burn it to DVD ? If you just copied it it will do nothing.Also have you a spare usb thumb drive it is easier in the long run?
    • David Aston
    • By David Aston 5th Dec 17, 4:36 PM
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    Thanks both.
    I found the most current version on the Mint site, 18.3 as it happens. Downloaded it. Transferred the download to a flash drive. Attempted to open it, whereupon it told me to burn it. Have just clicked on the burned DVD which shows 9 folders, something called Jasper seems to contain the bulk of the 1.8 gig download. Yes, I am flailing around I admit.
    Thanks for your dual boot comments Norman.
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 5th Dec 17, 4:49 PM
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    Assuming your disc is bootable https://lifehacker.com/5991848/how-to-boot-from-a-cd-or-usb-drive-on-any-pc
    Remember to put the disc in the drive before shutting down.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 5th Dec 17, 5:34 PM
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    Until you give it a go, you'll never know. People forget what a pain in the !!!! Windows 98 was to use, perhaps if you've used it lately, Linux won't be so bad for you. Where people struggle is when they have to start messing around with configuration files etc.

    Pro-tip. Learn how to use vi It's a Linux users best friend. It can get you out almost any nasty situation. If you're not sure, Google it.
    • AlwaysHere
    • By AlwaysHere 5th Dec 17, 7:07 PM
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    From your previous thread you made it sound as if you had solved the issue by installing Windows 7 from a DVD from a member of your family. Seems without a licence(looking for my rolling eyes emoticon)

    Anyway, in order to make things right, you will have to create a bootable USB Flash drive.

    Do you have one sitting around? Small capacity is fine.

    Good. So remove all your data from it as we are going to wipe it clean.

    Choose to download and save Rufus to your PC.

    Then plug in your USB Flash drive, wait until it is recognised and then double click on the Rufus application in order to open it.

    You'll see something like this;



    Leave the ones that state Default on your interface as they are. But use the dropdown lists to select MBR and FreeDOS etc
    Then click Start.

    It will create a bootable USB flash drive to which you can double click to open and add files if necessary.

    Once complete, choose to download and save;

    DELL Inspiron 530 for Windows 7.zip firmware that I have provided for you.

    Once saved, unzip the package to reveal the folder within. Open the folder, copy the three files within and paste them to the root of your newly bootable USB Flash drive.

    Now you are ready to flash your BIOS/update the firmware.

    Restart or turn off the PC. On restart or switching back on, keep your finger on the F12 key. It should open the BOOT menu, allowing your to choose the newly created USB Flash drive as the primary boot drive.
    Do so and confirm if necessary. Once it boots from the USB Flash drive, you should see a flashing cursor. At this point, type; DOSFLASH , hit the Enter key and wait.

    Good luck.
    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 5th Dec 17, 11:38 PM
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    Debian Running Gnome

    The best linux experience on the planet. No exceptions.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    No chance! You want to give Arch Linux a go!
    • were
    • By were 5th Dec 17, 11:59 PM
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    it is not a huge step from windows to mint.

    When yo have finished installation, and if you want to customise it a little, go to Youtube and type top mint linux and you will get loads of vids. Just install the items you want

    Mint is not the no 1 distro on distrowatch for nothing
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