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    • pieman6
    • By pieman6 4th Dec 17, 8:17 AM
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    PPI on Store card delayed decisions
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    PPI on Store card delayed decisions 4th Dec 17 at 8:17 AM
    I submitted a PPI claim via Santander for my Debenhams store card taken out in 1999. The 8 weeks deadline has come and gone now so i contacted them to find out what's happening. The y have told me that the matter is now with the insurer to determine if any more claims for cards taken out pre 2005 can be upheld. The lady explained that the FCA and the FOS are aware and even if i was to submit my claim to the FOS it wont go anywhere until the insurer have made a final decision. She said this could be months or even years before the decision is made.

    Does anyone know much more about this decision or if its worth taking them to the FOS? I thought you only had 6 months to refer the matter to the FOS?
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    • zx81
    • By zx81 4th Dec 17, 8:20 AM
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    You have 6 months from their final decision. They haven't yet given you their decision.
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    • By Moneyineptitude 4th Dec 17, 10:43 AM
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    if its worth taking them to the FOS?
    Originally posted by pieman6
    You can refer the complaint if you want now that the eight weeks have passed, but doing so is unlikely to speed up the process and, of course, will not guarantee the outcome will go in your favour. I'd hold off from referring just yet if I were you, though I agree telling you that the decision may take months "or even years" is not acceptable.
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    Also spoke to them yesterday (5/12/17) and they said that they are now dealing with them in turn. Can not in the life of me understand how they can no longer consider Upholding pre 2005 accounts as they previously upheld complaints from accounts held those particular years.
    Hasn't the "precedent" been set??? And therefore wouldn't it be unfair on the future complainants?
    • Deewm76
    • By Deewm76 6th Dec 17, 12:38 PM
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    I submitted a claim to Santander 3 weeks ago (store card taken out in 1997 and paid off in full around 2001). I chased them up yesterday and they confirmed that they had received my complaint and where investigating if PPI was miss sold??? After reading this thread I feel completely fobbed off (they are deliberately withholding this information).
    • Deewm76
    • By Deewm76 6th Dec 17, 1:39 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 1:39 PM
    Phoned Santander just now, they confirmed that Store card PPI claims (pre 2005) are indeed on hold. Advisor confirmed that ombudsman are aware of this (in otherwise) don't even waste your time re-directing your complaint to them after 8 weeks.
    • societys child
    • By societys child 6th Dec 17, 2:05 PM
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    I submitted a claim to Santander 3 weeks ago (store card taken out in 1997 and paid off in full around 2001). I chased them up yesterday and they confirmed that they had received my complaint and where investigating if PPI was miss sold??? After reading this thread I feel completely fobbed off (they are deliberately withholding this information).
    Originally posted by Deewm76
    They probably are investigating(???). but it's only been 3 weeks since you complained.
    Depending on their decision, you may have to then wait for the decision of the insurers. What do you feel 'fobbed off' about?

    • Deewm76
    • By Deewm76 6th Dec 17, 2:26 PM
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    They probably are investigating(???). but it's only been 3 weeks since you complained.
    Depending on their decision, you may have to then wait for the decision of the insurers. What do you feel 'fobbed off' about?








    I was fobbed off by Santander (when they confirmed to me that it was investigating my claim) when it fact it's on hold (as of all pre 2005 store card claims). They also confirmed that they have sat with this information since last week (when there insurance company stopped paying out). Withholding information (when relevant) is being fobbed off (in my eyes) along with not putting this relevant/important customer information on it's website/public domain.
    • societys child
    • By societys child 8th Dec 17, 12:09 PM
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    • 8th Dec 17, 12:09 PM
    They have 8 weeks to respond to your complaint, it doesn't sound like there was really any 'fobbing' going on

    You'll have to wait for their response.

    • Mersey
    • By Mersey 8th Dec 17, 1:42 PM
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    I was fobbed off by Santander (when they confirmed to me that it was investigating my claim) when it fact it's on hold (as of all pre 2005 store card claims). They also confirmed that they have sat with this information since last week (when there insurance company stopped paying out). Withholding information (when relevant) is being fobbed off (in my eyes) along with not putting this relevant/important customer information on it's website/public domain.
    Originally posted by Deewm76


    That's certainly untrue ['that all pre-2005 store card claims are on hold'] as my neighbour received her repayment this week from an historic Arcadia group store that Santander have taken over the liability for and have been paying out in respect of over the past couple of years (Burton, TopShop, DP, etc).


    However, as you may have seen in recent days on other threads, there does appear to be a current 'hold' specifically in relation to Debenhams' store card claims from the 1990s onwards.


    It's only happened in recent days so that probably explains why there's no mention of it on the Santander site.
    Last edited by Mersey; 08-12-2017 at 1:56 PM.
    Please be polite to OPs and remember this is a site for Claimants and Appellants to seek redress against their bank, ex-boss or retailer. If they wanted morality or the view of the IoD or Bank they'd ask them.
    • dunstonh
    • By dunstonh 8th Dec 17, 2:36 PM
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    I was fobbed off by Santander (when they confirmed to me that it was investigating my claim) when it fact it's on hold (as of all pre 2005 store card claims).
    That is not fobbing off. They are investigating. They are investigating whether they, the underwriter or nobody has liability for the sale.

    This is only affecting some cards where liability is unsure.


    . They also confirmed that they have sat with this information since last week (when there insurance company stopped paying out). Withholding information (when relevant) is being fobbed off (in my eyes) along with not putting this relevant/important customer information on it's website/public domain.
    A week is no time. Decisions like this involve solicitors, directors, the regulator and the ombudsman as well as the third party companies. Expecting the issues they are looking at into the public domain is naive. They also must not be seen to deter complaints. So, they can continue to accept the complaints and put them on hold until the outcome is decided.

    This sort of thing is not unusual. Lots of people over the last decade have had to wait years in some cases to get an outcome. So, 3 weeks for you is nothing in comparison
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). Comments are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice. Different people have different needs and what is right for one person may not be for another. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
    • Kezzab198
    • By Kezzab198 10th Dec 17, 11:36 PM
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    However, as you may have seen in recent days on other threads, there does appear to be a current 'hold' specifically in relation to Debenhams' store card claims from the 1990s onwards.


    It's only happened in recent days so that probably explains why there's no mention of it on the Santander site.
    Originally posted by Mersey
    Thatís not necessarily true. I have to separate complaints with Santander, 1 Topshop and 1 River Island pre 2005 and they are both on hold. I complained back in August, they went over the 8 week time frame and was told it was still being investigated it was only last week they told me the complaint was hold. Think there are a few mixed messages going about and to be fair I donít think the call centre staff realty have any idea whatís going on.
    • dunstonh
    • By dunstonh 11th Dec 17, 12:29 AM
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    I don’t think the call centre staff realty have any idea what’s going on.
    They wouldnt be call centre staff if they did.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). Comments are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice. Different people have different needs and what is right for one person may not be for another. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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