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    • Coldste
    • By Coldste 3rd Dec 17, 7:50 PM
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    Want braces but canít afford them
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    Want braces but canít afford them 3rd Dec 17 at 7:50 PM
    Hey all as the title says I want braces but there’s no chance I’d be able to get them. From reading the NHS they say it could be between two thousand and six thousand pounds depending on the severity of treatment, and it’s annoying me because my dentist keeps saying I’m suffering with severer overcrowding but I’m not able to work at the moment due to disability’s so is there anyway the NHS can help as I’m not able to afford private treatment
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    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 3rd Dec 17, 8:06 PM
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    In a word no.

    The NHS will fund a very small amount of adult braces but only in cases where the problem is so severe that it is needed in conjunction with jaw surgery.

    Most/all areas will require very severe problems even before they will accept a referral for an opinion on treatment.

    It is even getting more difficult to refer children for braces and areas of the U.K. have been looking at stopping even that.
    • Coldste
    • By Coldste 3rd Dec 17, 8:14 PM
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    In a word no.

    The NHS will fund a very small amount of adult braces but only in cases where the problem is so severe that it is needed in conjunction with jaw surgery.

    Most/all areas will require very severe problems even before they will accept a referral for an opinion on treatment.

    It is even getting more difficult to refer children for braces and areas of the U.K. have been looking at stopping even that.
    Originally posted by brook2jack
    Cheers really annoying being on the sick oh well I guess Iíll just have to try and save a bit every month then hopefully in about 6 years Iíll be able to afford it
    • IAmWales
    • By IAmWales 3rd Dec 17, 8:37 PM
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    Some services will offer finance so you can pay by instalments. Obviously you'd need to be sure you could manage the repayments before doing this.
    • Coldste
    • By Coldste 3rd Dec 17, 9:47 PM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 9:47 PM
    Some services will offer finance so you can pay by instalments. Obviously you'd need to be sure you could manage the repayments before doing this.
    Originally posted by IAmWales
    Thought about it but looking at some of the finance options different places have is no good as the second cheapest they have is a £2000, and Iíd have to pay back £137.74 over 24 months and I highly doubt Iíd be able to get braces for that. And the most expensive is £5000, paying back £160 over 36 months and I wouldn't be able to live on £90 for 2 weeks
    • wondercollie
    • By wondercollie 3rd Dec 17, 11:12 PM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 11:12 PM
    I'm a child of the late 60s early 70s. In Canada prior to the early 80s there was no dental insurance and unless your parents were loaded with $$ you didn't get braces.

    My overcrowding problem was solved by removing a couple of adult teeth to provide space to relieve the crowding. My teeth look fine.
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 4th Dec 17, 3:10 PM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 3:10 PM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 3:10 PM
    Crooked teeth do not endanger health though some people, well known in the media ,for scrounging, would convince some gullible doctor otherwise, so should not be paid for by the NHS no matter what your circumstances.


    As I child I was diagnosed as needing them, with dentist saying come back in N years. He retired and when I went back as suggested (regular checkups not being common then) only to be told that at 18 it was too late.


    Because of this I still have crooked teeth,but have reached 68 without any harm from them.
    • Soph1988
    • By Soph1988 4th Dec 17, 9:52 PM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 9:52 PM
    I looked into this recently myself - it would be purely cosmetic as it's not classed as a medical issue really. No way around paying.
    • dawnydee73
    • By dawnydee73 5th Dec 17, 2:10 PM
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    I'm getting braces very soon and have just paid for them, there was finance options at the orthodontics, could pay in a year interest free but it was a lot to pay monthly or could pay over 3 years with interest.

    I got a 30 month interest free credit card and paid up front and have set up mine own direct debit to pay this off monthly, more affordable than the yearly option and I dont like to pay interest on anything
    • suejb2
    • By suejb2 5th Dec 17, 6:49 PM
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    If you're keen on getting them,0% credit card. Only you know your finances and the need /desire for braces.
    Life is like a bath, the longer you are in it the more wrinkly you become.
    • the gardener
    • By the gardener 6th Dec 17, 9:08 PM
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    Just an idea ..........are you located anywhere near an airport where you can get cheapo flights to err Poland or somewhere similar.


    You might find it handy if you can get an OPG on an optical disk so that it can be emailed save a trip for the initial consultation
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 6th Dec 17, 9:14 PM
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    The average length of time for fixed braces is 18 months and adjustments are needed every four to six weeks.
    Even aligner type braces will need 8 to 12 alligners plus retainers with associated visits.


    Braces are absolutely not suitable for Dental tourism because of the number of visits needed and that’s without any breakages , brackets coming off etc which happen with any brace treatment.

    No reputable dentist would do any type of treatment based on just an opg , they need to someone in person.

    Also due to radiography rules in the U.K. meant to keep exposure to a minimum , few , if any U.K. dentists would be happy to take an OPG without clinical justifications of their own.
    Last edited by brook2jack; 06-12-2017 at 9:17 PM.
    • the gardener
    • By the gardener 6th Dec 17, 9:44 PM
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    No reputable dentist would do any type of treatment based on just an opg , they need to someone in person.

    Also due to radiography rules in the U.K. meant to keep exposure to a minimum , few , if any U.K. dentists would be happy to take an OPG without clinical justifications of their own.
    Originally posted by brook2jack


    Not my experience, someone will need to do the OPG. Just looking at flights to warsaw in January 35 pounds return from STN,


    There are dentists who do assessments in London for foreign treatment.
    Last edited by the gardener; 06-12-2017 at 9:49 PM.
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 6th Dec 17, 11:39 PM
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    Ok - but what if a bracket comes off your tooth tonight? What’s the cheapest flight to Poland in the next couple of days?

    Just what is your ‘experience’?

    Even the clinics themselves don’t advertise themselves as places to go for braces! They’re more qwik-fit implants & veneeriology bucket shops.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 7th Dec 17, 7:54 AM
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    Because,according to regulations, a dentist has to justify each and every x Ray they take , grade and report on it , it isnít not enough that someone comes in asking for an x Ray for treatment that will be provided by another practitioner. Especially as an OPG is not sufficient to do a proper treatment plan and needs to be used in conjunction with seeing the patient and doing other tests. Dentists radiation protection training strongly advises against this.

    It is a different case if a practitioner gets a written referral for an x ray as often happens when eg an orthodontist is a bit worried about a tooth and will ask the dentist to x ray and treat , as necessary.

    Even at £35 a flight the costs for 12 or more visits that a brace may require will soon add up , plus extra appointments for brackets off, broken retainers etc.
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 7th Dec 17, 8:07 AM
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    Just an idea ..........are you located anywhere near an airport where you can get cheapo flights to err Poland or somewhere similar.


    You might find it handy if you can get an OPG on an optical disk so that it can be emailed save a trip for the initial consultation
    Originally posted by the gardener
    Could work out just as expensive once you've been back every 4-6, sometimes 2, weeks for moulds, adjustments, repairs!

    Braces don't just get put on and left to work, not even in 'err Poland'
    Last edited by peachyprice; 07-12-2017 at 8:10 AM.
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