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    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 9:44 AM
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    Facebook incident with colleagues?
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 9:44 AM
    Facebook incident with colleagues? 3rd Dec 17 at 9:44 AM
    I started my job late August and I've never had a minute's bother with it. I enjoy the job, always say yes to overtime, and my 13 weeks probation was up around two weeks ago, and I've never been called into the office within 15 weeks so I assume I've passed it. The job itself is to help support me whilst I'm at university but they do offer a graduate scheme to be trained up for management which I wanted to apply for as I'll be finishing university next year and enjoy working where I do.

    I worked a full 8 hour night shift Friday night - Saturday Morning, and I'd been placed with a guy from the agency, he'd had no prior experience to that kind of workplace nor even training in this one, so I had to spend the full 8 hours showing him the ropes and he was finding it a struggle, spent the entire shift asking me when our break was, then when we had it, he was asking if we get any more..

    It was long, but I got home thinking that maybe if they've got me training people up like that then I'm moving up in the job and they trust me to show the ropes.

    Then later, one of the assistant managers tagged me in something on Facebook, joking about the entire morning and the guy I was working with basically saying the other guy was in control of me (he was quite a big beefy guy) and we went on to say he was quite a scary guy. All was well and good, until another colleague posted that he got no help, 'F' the company and 'F" us all he said. Where the assistant manager jokingly said I nominated myself to take over, and I replied saying I don't mind, I quite enjoy the guy's role when I took over once before. But my other colleague started ranting about how I messed up, how I'm lazy, I don't do anything around the place, and even added that I should tie a rope around my neck, and if we were joined at birth he'd rip his arm and leg off to get away from me. For my assistant manager to turn around and say he's more use for a chocolate fireguard than me, and another assistant manager who basically said I'm a lazy student and a drain on society.

    I'm trying to get out in a place and earn myself a living to support my education, so I don't get how I'm a drain on society, nor do I agree with other comments about tying a rope around my neck, because if he said that to somebody else one day who's to say they wouldn't? I just don't get the situation though, if anything I was saying I enjoy my job..

    I was just going to leave it and just keep my head down on Monday but the more I think about it, the more it's getting to me. I don't want a reputation around there as a 'grass' but at the same time I don't want them to be in control of me losing my job, as I need the job. My friends last night also saw the comments and told me I should report it higher up as it is bullying and they all ganged up on me out of nowhere.

    Any advice?
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    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 3rd Dec 17, 9:48 AM
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    Rule 1. NEVER put anything work related on Facebook.
    Rule 2. NEVER comment on anything work related that others have put on Facebook.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 9:57 AM
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    Rule 1. NEVER put anything work related on Facebook.
    Rule 2. NEVER comment on anything work related that others have put on Facebook.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    Well I think I perhaps just learnt that the hard way
    • sangie595
    • By sangie595 3rd Dec 17, 9:59 AM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 9:59 AM
    I started my job late August and I've never had a minute's bother with it. I enjoy the job, always say yes to overtime, and my 13 weeks probation was up around two weeks ago, and I've never been called into the office within 15 weeks so I assume I've passed it. The job itself is to help support me whilst I'm at university but they do offer a graduate scheme to be trained up for management which I wanted to apply for as I'll be finishing university next year and enjoy working where I do.

    I worked a full 8 hour night shift Friday night - Saturday Morning, and I'd been placed with a guy from the agency, he'd had no prior experience to that kind of workplace nor even training in this one, so I had to spend the full 8 hours showing him the ropes and he was finding it a struggle, spent the entire shift asking me when our break was, then when we had it, he was asking if we get any more..

    It was long, but I got home thinking that maybe if they've got me training people up like that then I'm moving up in the job and they trust me to show the ropes.

    Then later, one of the assistant managers tagged me in something on Facebook, joking about the entire morning and the guy I was working with basically saying the other guy was in control of me (he was quite a big beefy guy) and we went on to say he was quite a scary guy. All was well and good, until another colleague posted that he got no help, 'F' the company and 'F" us all he said. Where the assistant manager jokingly said I nominated myself to take over, and I replied saying I don't mind, I quite enjoy the guy's role when I took over once before. But my other colleague started ranting about how I messed up, how I'm lazy, I don't do anything around the place, and even added that I should tie a rope around my neck, and if we were joined at birth he'd rip his arm and leg off to get away from me. For my assistant manager to turn around and say he's more use for a chocolate fireguard than me, and another assistant manager who basically said I'm a lazy student and a drain on society.

    I'm trying to get out in a place and earn myself a living to support my education, so I don't get how I'm a drain on society, nor do I agree with other comments about tying a rope around my neck, because if he said that to somebody else one day who's to say they wouldn't? I just don't get the situation though, if anything I was saying I enjoy my job..

    I was just going to leave it and just keep my head down on Monday but the more I think about it, the more it's getting to me. I don't want a reputation around there as a 'grass' but at the same time I don't want them to be in control of me losing my job, as I need the job. My friends last night also saw the comments and told me I should report it higher up as it is bullying and they all ganged up on me out of nowhere.

    Any advice?
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    You shouldn't be talking about work or colleagues on Facebook - regardless of what they do. You have already done enough to get disciplined - possibly dismissed - regardless of what anyone else has said or done. And actually, you participated in the original bullying - what did you think talking about another worker and making detrimental comments about him is??? It seems a bit rich that you now want to complain about about a situation which you set up by having a "laugh" at someone else's expense.

    Personally I'd suggest you keep your head down, never post on Facebook about work, and hope to God that what you have already put on there hasn't been copied and is winging its way to HR.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 3rd Dec 17, 10:05 AM
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    Break all facebook contact with them and every other person in that workplace.

    put up every barrier possible to avoid getting roped in to anything now or in the future, the fall out can get very nasty facebook stuff has a habit of leaking all over place.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 10:11 AM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 10:11 AM
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    You shouldn't be talking about work or colleagues on Facebook - regardless of what they do. You have already done enough to get disciplined - possibly dismissed - regardless of what anyone else has said or done. And actually, you participated in the original bullying - what did you think talking about another worker and making detrimental comments about him is??? It seems a bit rich that you now want to complain about about a situation which you set up by having a "laugh" at someone else's expense.

    Personally I'd suggest you keep your head down, never post on Facebook about work, and hope to God that what you have already put on there hasn't been copied and is winging its way to HR.
    Originally posted by sangie595
    In all honesty, I'm not proud of my initial comments, although in my defence I never said anything bad about the guy I was working with, apart from he was struggling a bit and about the breaks. But you are right, this shouldn't have been discussed over Facebook and I'm ashamed of myself for it. When my friends told me to report it last night, I told them I can't really say anything when I was discussing the other guy.

    It's more the whole suicide comments that were hurtful, basically about tying a rope around my neck, that took things a bit too far
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 3rd Dec 17, 10:14 AM
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    I take it these assistant managers are quite young? They dont sound very mature, quite strange how they turned on you so quickly.

    Your first mistake was accepting their friend request, you should have told them that you dont mix facebook and work.

    The second mistake was getting tagged into something, Ive seen people get sacked from getting tagged into things, i dont know if this is your fault or theirs, i dnt know how it all works.

    Third mistake was taking the bait and commenting, if you are going to be prejudice against people who are physically bigger than you then fine but keep it to yourself please.

    Mistake 2 or 3 wouldn't have happened if you followed step one, as you said, you have learned the hard way and grassing them up would turn into grassing yourself up. I advise you delete your comments, hope they have not print-screened it and keep your head down.

    If they are just assistant managers i dont see how they can decide if you stay and leave.

    And dont think overtime means anything, its like a person who has no sick days for years then falls ill and is dismayed that they have a disciplinary because they thought they had special favor or something based on the previous years.

    Oh yeah, REMOVE THEM ASAP and dont add any other colleagues.
    • RichardD1970
    • By RichardD1970 3rd Dec 17, 10:15 AM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 10:15 AM
    Rule 1. NEVER put anything work related on Facebook.
    Rule 2. NEVER comment on anything work related that others have put on Facebook.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    I would go even further and not have anyone from work as a friend/contact on Facebook.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 10:24 AM
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    • 3rd Dec 17, 10:24 AM
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    I take it these assistant managers are quite young? They dont sound very mature, quite strange how they turned on you so quickly.

    Your first mistake was accepting their friend request, you should have told them that you dont mix facebook and work.

    The second mistake was getting tagged into something, Ive seen people get sacked from getting tagged into things, i dont know if this is your fault or theirs, i dnt know how it all works.

    Third mistake was taking the bait and commenting, if you are going to be prejudice against people who are physically bigger than you then fine but keep it to yourself please.

    Mistake 2 or 3 wouldn't have happened if you followed step one, as you said, you have learned the hard way and grassing them up would turn into grassing yourself up. I advise you delete your comments, hope they have not print-screened it and keep your head down.

    If they are just assistant managers i dont see how they can decide if you stay and leave.

    And dont think overtime means anything, its like a person who has no sick days for years then falls ill and is dismayed that they have a disciplinary because they thought they had special favor or something based on the previous years.

    Oh yeah, REMOVE THEM ASAP and dont add any other colleagues.
    Originally posted by xapprenticex
    One of the assistant managers blocked me, meaning I can't delete my initial comments which lands me in deeper water, but keeping my head down right now really seems like the best idea right now.

    The assistant manager who started this is rather young but the rest are quite old. I just wanted to try and fit in with them and have banter but this has actually been a big life lesson to me now, just seriously keep my head down
    Last edited by Jlawson118; 03-12-2017 at 10:26 AM.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 3rd Dec 17, 10:35 AM
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    One other thing to add, employers recruiting are scanning social media a lot more than they used to so be careful out there even with just friends and family.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 10:41 AM
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    One other thing to add, employers recruiting are scanning social media a lot more than they used to so be careful out there even with just friends and family.
    Originally posted by getmore4less

    Happened to a colleague of one of my friends. He works in childcare and apparently this girl posted a lot of Nazi like posts on Facebook towards either the labour or conservative party or something and ended up losing her job. I should have learnt when my friend told me this but all I do is some warehouse work so I kind of thought to myself this doesn't involve me. But I was clearly mistaken
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 3rd Dec 17, 10:48 AM
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    One of the assistant managers blocked me, meaning I can't delete my initial comments which lands me in deeper water, but keeping my head down right now really seems like the best idea right now.

    The assistant manager who started this is rather young but the rest are quite old. I just wanted to try and fit in with them and have banter but this has actually been a big life lesson to me now, just seriously keep my head down
    Originally posted by Jlawson118

    I was going to say, this sounds like a warehouse job to me, if they were in any way professional young manager guy would have been sacked by now and if the older ones are doing nothing about it then... i really dont know.

    Keep your head down and find something better, he/they CLEARLY have a personal issue with you.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 3rd Dec 17, 11:02 AM
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    I was going to say, this sounds like a warehouse job to me, if they were in any way professional young manager guy would have been sacked by now and if the older ones are doing nothing about it then... i really dont know.

    Keep your head down and find something better, he/they CLEARLY have a personal issue with you.
    Originally posted by xapprenticex
    I'll stick my head down and ride it out until I've finished university at least. I get on with most people in there and have a good laugh, I'm assuming it's just these few who have an issue. They've posted something this morning tagging me in it and I've just ignored it, and plan to carry on with that
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 3rd Dec 17, 11:44 AM
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    I'll stick my head down and ride it out until I've finished university at least. I get on with most people in there and have a good laugh, I'm assuming it's just these few who have an issue. They've posted something this morning tagging me in it and I've just ignored it, and plan to carry on with that
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    Good job, they tagged you again..... some people are unbelievable. Yes, ignore it 100%. Looks like they are trying to bully you. Bear in mind, being at uni may make some people think that they probably havent done much. Being a uni student seems to be riling them up.
    • Leo2020
    • By Leo2020 3rd Dec 17, 12:00 PM
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    The second mistake was getting tagged into something, Ive seen people get sacked from getting tagged into things, i dont know if this is your fault or theirs, i dnt know how it all works.
    Originally posted by xapprenticex
    Any of a persons friends can tag them in something unless you change the setttings in Facebook. Very harsh to get sacked because a friend tagged you in something but like you say you don't know how it works I would guess many employers don't either and might think the person tagged themselves (which you can also do).
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 3rd Dec 17, 12:32 PM
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    In the old days students did silly stuff, the union mags were full of the "pranks" with pics and names, these mags were the facebook of the day with a small circulation, no permanent record.

    Facebook can destroy your life.

    Mag==rag as they were known.
    Last edited by getmore4less; 03-12-2017 at 12:38 PM.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 3rd Dec 17, 1:22 PM
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    Check your Facebook settings to avoid being tagged.
    • AquaGirl
    • By AquaGirl 3rd Dec 17, 1:59 PM
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    I've seen this kind of thing before. It's why i have a very very small number of work friends on my Facebook list, 3 people, and i know i can trust them for nothing to go further (plus we don't talk about work on Facebook anyway or work colleagues). And that includes private messages because screenshots are easy to print off. I've seen that happen too.

    I would advise you to delete all comments if you haven't already. Remove all work colleagues from your friends list unless you know that 110% you can trust them and it takes more than a few months to figure that out in my eyes.
    Don't talk about work on facebook, not even in a positive sense. You wont get any brownie points for saying you had a good day at work. Just do your job to the best of your ability & let everything else take care of itself.

    Facebook is poisonous as far as employment goes. I've even seen non-work related things been used against people at work. Someone has broken their leg say & they drive for a living. They're 'tagged' as being out somewhere. When they get back they get asked why they were at such and such a place like they should be bedridden for the entire duration of their sick note. Like i said i have about 3 people i know i can trust (and it was working with them for a few years before i decided that) and all the others have been searched and blocked.

    I don't 'check in', i very rarely post 'status updates'. Everything is very minimal. It's sad that it has to be like that but that's the world we live in. Good luck.
    • asajj
    • By asajj 3rd Dec 17, 2:12 PM
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    Rule 1. NEVER put anything work related on Facebook.
    Rule 2. NEVER comment on anything work related that others have put on Facebook.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    3. Never add work colleagues on Facebook as friends.
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    • sangie595
    • By sangie595 3rd Dec 17, 2:29 PM
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    One of the assistant managers blocked me, meaning I can't delete my initial comments which lands me in deeper water, but keeping my head down right now really seems like the best idea right now.

    The assistant manager who started this is rather young but the rest are quite old. I just wanted to try and fit in with them and have banter but this has actually been a big life lesson to me now, just seriously keep my head down
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    Hmm. I'm concerned about this. Someone has blocked you. Which suggests that since this took place they have decided that the conversation was inappropriate. At best that means that they think you are an idiot. The worst case scenario is that they are going to raise this in work. I'm glad that you've learned a lesson - and I'm going to disagree with Aquagirl, but if you have seen the number of people dismissed because their trusted friend they work with reported something, you would never use Facebook, never mind include work colleagues in your trusted categories. I spend more time defending people on Facebook issues than almost anything else now. Even your friends and family can rat you out- it only takes one person to have a reason, and you may not even know what that reason is!

    I think I'd have to say now that you can't ignore this. You need to speak to this manager, explain that in hindsight you believe that you've been very stupid being led along this path, and you would like to delete the comments but can't do so unless they let you. At this stage, as long as they stand, you are going to always be in danger of them coming out. Best to be proactive in addressing this. Whatever had been said by who now is history - what comes of it may not yet be.

    And if that doesn't work, it's not a guaranteed strategy, but I'd be tempted to go to HR or my manager and " report myself"! Not complaining about the other comments, but simply explain it as you have here, that it all got out of hand, you've learned a tough lesson and you'd rather he heard it from you and not from someone else. If they then choose to act on the mobbing against you, that's up to them - but at the very least, it's you that gets the thefoot in door before someone else does.

    Lesson 4 - join a union, so when everyone else lets you down, at least there's one person still trying to help you. Technically you are in a union, but I'm not sure how much help they can give in a workplace.
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