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    • Timewaits
    • By Timewaits 2nd Dec 17, 10:27 AM
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    Deposit left..no show.
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 10:27 AM
    Deposit left..no show. 2nd Dec 17 at 10:27 AM
    Hello everyone.
    I sold a car two weeks ago he left a deposit for £500 and he filled the log book out but I kept it. Reason he filled out log book he said he had to arrange a lorry to collect as it was going straight to docks and going abroad. I wrote him out a receipt gave him a copy and he went on his way. Seemed nice chap.
    Two weeks later he still has not collected. I texted him to ask if he knew when it will be collected he didn't reply to texts I then called him Monday and he said he had gone away and was only back today and he will arrange collection and he is waiting for transfer of money from abroad as he is buying it on someone else's behalf.and looking at info on the car. Which is odd because we discussed all this at my home and he was happy and it had no paperwork as it was lost again he was happy with this.
    I phone him again yesterday given the time scale he should have organised something he said he will get straight onto the person he's buying it for and call me with in the hour that was 6.30 last night and still havent heard. I also sent a text shortly after to say I can't keep the car forever on hold and will have to sell it on if he doesn't make arrangemenarrangements pretty soon.
    I feel two weeks is ample time to arrange collection I feel he is mucking me about amd for the best part ignoring me. Not sure were I stand on this do I wait a bit longer. Do I sell it on again and his deposit of £500 is cash what do i do with that he lives 3 hours away from me.
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    • maninthestreet
    • By maninthestreet 2nd Dec 17, 11:24 AM
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    Do you have his postal address? If so, write to him stating time is now the essence of the contract, giving a reasonable deadline for him to collect the car and pay the balance, otherwise he will be in beach of contract and you will be keeping his deposit and re-marketing the car.
    Last edited by maninthestreet; 02-12-2017 at 5:36 PM.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
    • Timewaits
    • By Timewaits 2nd Dec 17, 11:45 AM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 11:45 AM
    Hi yes i have his postal address. That a worth a go. I will do that. What I dont get is why leave a £500 deposit if your not serious?
    • consumers_revenge
    • By consumers_revenge 2nd Dec 17, 1:33 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 1:33 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 1:33 PM
    sounds like a scam about to start to me.


    what type of car is it please? ( as in they cant get it abroad? )
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 2nd Dec 17, 1:35 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 1:35 PM
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    He obviously is a serious buyer. Otherwise he wouldn't have left a sizeable deposit.
    You won't necessarily be entitled to keep his deposit either.

    Your best bet is to give him another week then readvertise it. When it sells the second time refund his money less the advert fee
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 2nd Dec 17, 1:37 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 1:37 PM
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    Scams don't involve paying cash. And even if it was the start of a scam you'd be sure they'd be following through pretty quickly before an unknowing seller cottons on.

    Doesn't sound like a scam at all. Just an unorganised buyer
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 2nd Dec 17, 1:44 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 1:44 PM
    sounds like a scam about to start to me.
    Originally posted by consumers_revenge
    What sort of scam involves giving the victiim £500 in cleared funds (I assume), do enlighten other posters so they don't get caught out.

    what type of car is it please? ( as in they cant get it abroad? )
    Originally posted by consumers_revenge
    Suggest you might want to re-read the OP it doesn't say the buyer is based abroad, just that they went abroad.
    • consumers_revenge
    • By consumers_revenge 2nd Dec 17, 3:53 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 3:53 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 3:53 PM
    If a is worth 35k then £500 is a pittance on a car that may be involved in something iffy is what I'm saying....hence why I asked what car it was.


    he said he had to arrange a lorry to collect as it was going straight to docks and going abroad


    again as above IF the car worth 35k disappears in a container and is not seen again and the balance/cash falls through for some reason.


    then again it could be a £1000 banger and the buyer is 5hi7 hopeless!


    Not saying this is the case but does happen
    Last edited by consumers_revenge; 02-12-2017 at 3:57 PM.
    • Timewaits
    • By Timewaits 2nd Dec 17, 4:03 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 4:03 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 4:03 PM
    Yeah the funds were paid in cash the car is a 1986 bmw it wasn't loads of money so i couldn't imagine a scam in place as it's all cash. That's why I'm wondering about deposit as he would have to come get himself he loves 3 hours from me.
    Yeah he's not the buyer himself he is buying it for a uncle in Thailand.
    • consumers_revenge
    • By consumers_revenge 2nd Dec 17, 4:52 PM
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    fair enough, hopefully you can see why I asked.


    looks like just a bit hopeless lol


    I would just warn him its going back in to sell in 3 days if he wants the cash or car please collect in person before then.


    good luck.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 2nd Dec 17, 4:55 PM
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    Scams don't involve paying cash.
    Originally posted by arcon5
    The best ones most certainly do. What better way to gain someone's confidence than to give them several hundred quid in cash and let them keep it for a few weeks?

    They then turn up, say they can't withdraw the cash from the bank but can do a bank transfer. They let you keep several hundred quid for a few weeks so you feel confident and they do that.

    Move on a few months it turns out that they were fraudulently using someone's account and the payment is reversed. You only have the £500 deposit you got and no car.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 2nd Dec 17, 5:24 PM
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    Do you have his postal address? If so, write to him stating time is now the essence of the contract, giving a reasonable deadline for him to collect the and pay the balance, otherwise he will be in beach of contract and you will be keeping his deposit and re-marketing the car.
    Originally posted by maninthestreet
    How are you going to prove a breach of a contract that does not exist?
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 2nd Dec 17, 5:28 PM
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    How are you going to prove a breach of a contract that does not exist?
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    A contract does exist
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 2nd Dec 17, 5:39 PM
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    A contract does exist
    Originally posted by arcon5
    Oh, right. Yes, of course, the 'oral contract' so beloved of people who have something they want to complain about but no actual proof of what was said.
    • Timewaits
    • By Timewaits 2nd Dec 17, 5:46 PM
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    I wouldn't take a bank transfer anyhow I would just give him his deposit back as I don't trust bank transfers.
    As per my original message I have contacted him several times and seem to be getting on where apart from harrassing him daily I'm at a loss. I mean I could be wrong on this one but I always thought a deposit was non refundable and is lost if you don't collect the item . But as i say I could be wrong about tbat one.
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 2nd Dec 17, 5:50 PM
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    All a court would do is determine whether op acted 'reasonably
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 2nd Dec 17, 8:54 PM
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    Have you kept the cash at home? Just a thought, but is it all kosher? Take it to your bank if you still have it, tell them you are worried that it might not be legit. If they check it and find it's OK, either deposit it or bring it home again. If it's forged currncy, you lose nothing and the bank will inform the law. You have an address and phone number.

    Sound daft? Maybe, but this whole deal sound iffy to me. You have stated a price for the car, will he be trying to get a reduction I wonder?

    No. I'm not paranoid, just cynical from experience. Anything can happen in selling a car.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • Robby1988
    • By Robby1988 2nd Dec 17, 9:19 PM
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    How much interest did you have in the car before this chap came along?

    If your confident you could find another buyer quickly enough, I'd be asking him for account details to send his £500 deposit back, he is taking the mickey. Not being funny, but if I went to the hassle of a private sale I would just want the buyer to pitch up, pay and clear off. Couldn't be doing with getting strung along for weeks, chasing and then sitting in all day waiting for a lorry to show up.

    Why couldn't he drive it away and arrange for it to be picked up from his own address?
    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 2nd Dec 17, 9:48 PM
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    Oh, right. Yes, of course, the 'oral contract' so beloved of people who have something they want to complain about but no actual proof of what was said.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    So the £500 is a gift and the OP is free to sell the car?
    • maninthestreet
    • By maninthestreet 2nd Dec 17, 9:59 PM
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    Oh, right. Yes, of course, the 'oral contract' so beloved of people who have something they want to complain about but no actual proof of what was said.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    There has been an offer, an acceptance and a consideration (the £500 deposit) - so a contract does exist.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
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