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    • Purplepenguin88
    • By Purplepenguin88 30th Nov 17, 10:22 AM
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    Gas hob isolation valve
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    • 30th Nov 17, 10:22 AM
    Gas hob isolation valve 30th Nov 17 at 10:22 AM
    We're (currently) having our gas fire replaced with an electric fire.
    By the side of a chimney breast is a huge hole (caused by the previous owner taking out the old back boiler). There's a gas isolation tap here, that isolated the old gas fine (before we had it disconnected), and also isolates the gas hobs). This isolation tap sticks out of the wall.

    As part of the fireplace work we agreed he would fill in the hole (leaving the isolation tap sticking out).

    The guy coming to do the work (the tradesman for the fireplace shop) has changed the pipework so it no longer sticks out of the wall and is going to patch over the hole. This will leave us with no isolation for our kitchen gas hob. Is this an issue. He did the changes to the pipework without consulting my partner who is at home today whilst the work is being done.
    I don't know how forceful I need to be in getting him to undo this - or whether it is completely acceptable to not have this isolation.

    Thanks in advance.
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 30th Nov 17, 10:27 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 10:27 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 10:27 AM
    Presumably you can still turn off the gas at the main pipe near the meter? If so, that should suffice. I have no isolation for my hob but I do for my gas fire. Any problem with the gas, I'd be turning it off at the mains anyway.
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 30th Nov 17, 10:39 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 10:39 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 10:39 AM
    Gas appliances need a form of isolation so I would get them to put on back in.

    It’s not really the end of the world if you don’t have one, you can isolate it at the gas meter but the regs say it should have one.
    • Purplepenguin88
    • By Purplepenguin88 30th Nov 17, 11:18 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 11:18 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 11:18 AM
    We can still isolate gas for the whole house next to the meter in the understairs cupboard.
    He says there (probably is) an additional isolation valve under the hob - or if we have any work done in there that we can have one put in when we need it and not to worry about it until then. I just wanted to double check this was OK.
    • jrrowleyws
    • By jrrowleyws 30th Nov 17, 2:00 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:00 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:00 PM
    Is the contractor gas safe registered? If so, probably knows what he is talking about.
    • Purplepenguin88
    • By Purplepenguin88 30th Nov 17, 2:06 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:06 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:06 PM
    Yes he is gas safe registered.
    Thanks for all your help guys, you've put my mind at rest.
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 30th Nov 17, 2:28 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:28 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:28 PM
    Each gas appliance needs it’s own individual form of isolation. The main gas tap doesn’t count, like I said it wouldn’t bother me much but that’s what the regs state.
    • bris
    • By bris 30th Nov 17, 5:51 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 5:51 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 5:51 PM
    I would be surprised if there isn't a separate tap nearer the hob, usually below the oven, take the kick plate off and have a look under the units.


    Each appliance needs it own gas tap so it would be bad practice for an installer to have one servicing two appliances.


    Mind you the regs may have changed since the old back boiler was installed.


    If so then it would be better to situate a tap as near to the hob as possible rather that bringing the old one back into use. An engineer wouldn't know to look in the fireplace for the gas tap anyway if you leave the house somewhere down the line.
    Last edited by bris; 30-11-2017 at 5:55 PM.
    • flashg67
    • By flashg67 30th Nov 17, 9:32 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 9:32 PM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 9:32 PM
    rather than plaster over it, make a small inset box with a door to access it? You were planning on having the tap exposed, so this may actually look neater
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