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    • Lizzbet
    • By Lizzbet 29th Nov 17, 4:31 PM
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    council tax reduction - will they take note of improvements?
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    • 29th Nov 17, 4:31 PM
    council tax reduction - will they take note of improvements? 29th Nov 17 at 4:31 PM
    I have rheumatoid arthritis, and use a power chair indoors. I've recently realised that I could ask for the council tax reduction because of the extra floor space for wheelchair use, but I would like to check something before I apply.

    When we moved in to our present house, it was a 1 bedroomed cottage with a derelict barn attached. We've since had the barn built out, so it's now a 3 bedroomed house - with plenty of floor space. The council tax stays the same because they don't take account of extensions, improvements etc as a rule, but it would certainly be in a higher council tax band if it were assessed now.

    But - if I draw their attention to the fact that there is now a lot more floor space, in order to apply for the reduction, are they then able to put the house into a higher band before giving me the reduction? Or am I worrying unnecessarily?

    I don't want to be asking for things that aren't reasonable, but equally I don't want to miss out on what would be a decent amount of money. Anyone able to help please?
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    • venison
    • By venison 29th Nov 17, 4:41 PM
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    Personally I would leave well alone.
    I am now a Board Guide on the Credit card board and the Loan board and Benefits board (But give me time to learn the ropes thanks).
    • kingfisherblue
    • By kingfisherblue 29th Nov 17, 4:43 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 4:43 PM
    I've no idea whether they will reassess the council tax band, but it wouldn't seem unreasonable if they do. My mum's friend lived in an identical house to my mum's, but paid one band higher as it was detached (mum's is a semi), yet my mum has more land.

    The reduction for using a chair indoors is the equivilent of dropping one band.
    • CIS
    • By CIS 29th Nov 17, 5:07 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 5:07 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 5:07 PM
    I have rheumatoid arthritis, and use a power chair indoors. I've recently realised that I could ask for the council tax reduction because of the extra floor space for wheelchair use, but I would like to check something before I apply.

    When we moved in to our present house, it was a 1 bedroomed cottage with a derelict barn attached. We've since had the barn built out, so it's now a 3 bedroomed house - with plenty of floor space. The council tax stays the same because they don't take account of extensions, improvements etc as a rule, but it would certainly be in a higher council tax band if it were assessed now.

    But - if I draw their attention to the fact that there is now a lot more floor space, in order to apply for the reduction, are they then able to put the house into a higher band before giving me the reduction? Or am I worrying unnecessarily?

    I don't want to be asking for things that aren't reasonable, but equally I don't want to miss out on what would be a decent amount of money. Anyone able to help please?
    Originally posted by Lizzbet
    They will not re-assess the council tax band - it cannot be changed (other than to correct an error) until the property is sold or ownership is transferred.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery as I'm now a self employed Council Tax advisor and consultant with my own Council Tax consultancy business. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
    • tomtom256
    • By tomtom256 29th Nov 17, 7:33 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 7:33 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 7:33 PM
    I have rheumatoid arthritis, and use a power chair indoors. I've recently realised that I could ask for the council tax reduction because of the extra floor space for wheelchair use, but I would like to check something before I apply.

    When we moved in to our present house, it was a 1 bedroomed cottage with a derelict barn attached. We've since had the barn built out, so it's now a 3 bedroomed house - with plenty of floor space. The council tax stays the same because they don't take account of extensions, improvements etc as a rule, but it would certainly be in a higher council tax band if it were assessed now.

    But - if I draw their attention to the fact that there is now a lot more floor space, in order to apply for the reduction, are they then able to put the house into a higher band before giving me the reduction? Or am I worrying unnecessarily?

    I don't want to be asking for things that aren't reasonable, but equally I don't want to miss out on what would be a decent amount of money. Anyone able to help please?
    Originally posted by Lizzbet
    Presumably you got planning permission and had the building works signed off?

    If so it would have been reassessed then.
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 29th Nov 17, 8:07 PM
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    Presumably you got planning permission and had the building works signed off?

    If so it would have been reassessed then.
    Originally posted by tomtom256
    No, it is only reassessed on the next sale. A marker is put against the property and you can see that on the VO website.
    • CIS
    • By CIS 29th Nov 17, 8:12 PM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 8:12 PM
    Presumably you got planning permission and had the building works signed off?

    If so it would have been reassessed then.
    Originally posted by tomtom256
    That wouldn't make a difference though, it would still only be marked up as pending a band review for the next time it sold.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery as I'm now a self employed Council Tax advisor and consultant with my own Council Tax consultancy business. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
    • Lizzbet
    • By Lizzbet 2nd Dec 17, 3:30 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 3:30 PM
    Presumably you got planning permission and had the building works signed off?

    If so it would have been reassessed then.
    Originally posted by tomtom256
    Yes, we got planning permission and building control signed it off.
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 2nd Dec 17, 4:04 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 4:04 PM
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    • 2nd Dec 17, 4:04 PM
    You can check if your property has an improvement indicator here, but as said above there is no way the current band will increase because of the extension until the house is sold.
    https://www.gov.uk/council-tax-bands
    • Lizzbet
    • By Lizzbet 2nd Dec 17, 4:11 PM
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    Thanks to all
    Thank you to everyone who has responded, especially CIS and tom99 who had such clear and authoritative answers. I'll be in touch with them next week and am pleased we should save some money - it'll go towards the increased electricity bills I'm expecting to receive as I'm using my new lift so much!
    • kingfisherblue
    • By kingfisherblue 2nd Dec 17, 6:14 PM
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    Thank you to everyone who has responded, especially CIS and tom99 who had such clear and authoritative answers. I'll be in touch with them next week and am pleased we should save some money - it'll go towards the increased electricity bills I'm expecting to receive as I'm using my new lift so much!
    Originally posted by Lizzbet
    If you haven't already done so, request to go on the priority register with your utility companies. In the event of services being cut off (power cut, water off due to burst pipe, etc), you can get extra help. When the National Grid was replacing pipes last winter, we had to have the gas off for several hours a day, but they provided electric heaters because cold air affects my son's breathing and he was at risk of hospital admittance as a result. Also, if the water is off for any reason, and I can't get out with my disabled son, bottled water will be rpovided after a certain amount of time.

    In addition, ring your local fire station (non-emergency number) and let them know that you usually use a lift. Our local fire service know that I have a son with learning disabilites and physical disabilities, so they have noted which bedroom he sleeps in, and have checked both of my fire escape plans for upstairs.
    • Lizzbet
    • By Lizzbet 3rd Dec 17, 8:06 PM
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    Good point
    Thanks, kingfisherblue - I'm on the priority services register for the electricity and water utilities and both have been helpful if there's an interruption in supply (we don't have gas up here). I hadn't thought about letting the fire service know about the lift though. Another phone call to make!
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