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    • MSE Callum
    • By MSE Callum 29th Nov 17, 3:20 PM
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    MSE News: Food labelling shake-up 'to save shoppers £1 billion'
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    MSE News: Food labelling shake-up 'to save shoppers £1 billion' 29th Nov 17 at 3:20 PM
    New food labelling guidance that could save shoppers £1 billion a year by prolonging the lifespan of food and stopping edible items being thrown out has been published today...
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    'Food labelling shake-up 'to save shoppers £1 billion' - are you keeping the right fruit and veg in the fridge?'

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    • Wizard of Id
    • By Wizard of Id 29th Nov 17, 4:37 PM
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    I belong to the generation of people that were taught food facts by our mothers and don't need anything on the label to tell us how to treat food. I also learned not to buy more than I can eat in a certain time frame and that way there is no food wasted in my house.

    It is simply laziness on the part of people not wanting to think for themselves and thus needing to be TOLD what to do with their food after they have bought it.
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    • robin58
    • By robin58 29th Nov 17, 4:43 PM
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    How much more do we have to dumb down things because of the snowflake generation.

    By the way WASHED eggs are kept in the fridge. USA have to store eggs in fridges because of this.

    In UK eggs are not washed so can be kept outside the fridge.
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    • glider3560
    • By glider3560 29th Nov 17, 7:57 PM
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    How much more do we have to dumb down things because of the snowflake generation.

    By the way WASHED eggs are kept in the fridge. USA have to store eggs in fridges because of this.

    In UK eggs are not washed so can be kept outside the fridge.
    Originally posted by robin58
    Also, the UK's chickens are vaccinated against salmonella, whereas vaccination is still in it's infancy in the US. One of the reasons why they wash them and therefore they have to be kept in the fridge.

    • Caddyman
    • By Caddyman 29th Nov 17, 8:19 PM
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    Have to admit, never kept eggs still in their carton, in the fridge. Supermarkets don't keep eggs in the fridge. We buy a carton, they stay out of the fridge until they're used.

    As for everything else, commonsense applies, oh, yes, I forgot, commonsense seems to be somewhat lacking in society today.....
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    • By PasturesNew 29th Nov 17, 9:09 PM
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    I don't want to save £1billion - can't they just send me a cheque?
    • Elliesmum
    • By Elliesmum 30th Nov 17, 12:07 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 12:07 AM
    Hallelujah

    I'm fed up of hiding packaging from my OH as he is OTT when it comes to use by dates. To him, it's out of date and therefore should not be eaten...

    My eggs are kept in a ceramic chicken out of the fridge - never had a problem there either.

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    • VoucherMan
    • By VoucherMan 30th Nov 17, 6:54 AM
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    So not doing anything about the often pointless best before dates that many misunderstand and confuse with use by dates!

    I know a few that will not eat anything past this date, yet I have tins,jars, packets well past the best before dates (still plenty of 2014 & 2015 dated stuff). Unless they can educate people about these, which is doubtful since it hasn't worked yet, or convince the manufacturers to be a little more sensible in their dating policies, that's where mountains of waste will continue to be an issue.
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 30th Nov 17, 8:24 AM
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    So not doing anything about the often pointless best before dates that many misunderstand and confuse with use by dates!
    Originally posted by VoucherMan
    I can't understand why some people find it so hard to differentiate between the 2 phrases.

    But then again, I'm one of those people who don't take rigid notice of 'use by' dates anyway.
    I use my tongue and nose to tell if it's OK to eat.

    I've got an unopened mango yogurt in my fridge (big one) dated 'use by 24/11' and I'll have some for lunch today, tomorrow and Saturday.
    And I'll still be posting next week.

    I think the oldest item I've used was a tin of condensed lentil soup that had rolled under my storage rack in the garage.
    OK. How about this for not wasting food.

    I found a can of condensed Campbell's lentil soup under my food shelf in my garage.
    The 'best before' date was Oct 2008!

    Not dented or blown.
    Opened it, it looked OK, smelled OK.
    Added water, tasted OK.
    It's in the slow cooker with lamb, potatoes, turnip, carrots, onions & leeks.

    Just curious if anyone else would have used it too.
    Originally posted by Pollycat
    Posted 14/4/2017 - and it tasted good.
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 30th Nov 17, 9:43 AM
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    In my house we try not to waste food at all if we can help it, I'm very keen to bring my kids up knowing this. If we think something might be on the way out we do the "sniff test". If it smells ok we eat it
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    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 30th Nov 17, 11:22 AM
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    Hallelujah

    I'm fed up of hiding packaging from my OH as he is OTT when it comes to use by dates. To him, it's out of date and therefore should not be eaten...
    Originally posted by Elliesmum
    Same here - but in my case it’s the snobbishness about buying food plastered with yellow stickers! Despite then going on to enjoy the fruits of my frugal ways. Much of the stuff I get just wouldn’t be bought at full price.
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    • phillw
    • By phillw 30th Nov 17, 11:48 AM
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    Eggs are ok to keep in the fridge or in a cool place, they shouldn't be kept somewhere that the temperature is constantly changing. This includes the fridge door, even if there is a special egg holder built into the door. I keep mine in there.

    I also keep pineapple in the fridge, that appears to be controversial as well.

    I belong to the generation of people that were taught food facts by our mothers and don't need anything on the label to tell us how to treat food.
    Originally posted by Wizard of Id
    Congratulations. There appear to be a lot of people who's mothers didn't teach them, probably because they didn't learn either. Do we just discard those people or do something about it?
    Last edited by phillw; 30-11-2017 at 11:51 AM.
    • copperclock
    • By copperclock 30th Nov 17, 12:28 PM
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    I'll continue keeping apples in a bowl on the table so that my children can help themselves to them.
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 30th Nov 17, 1:42 PM
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    Stores put those little pots of cut up pineapple in the chiller so why shouldn't you keep a pineapple in the fridge?
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    • By dlusman 30th Nov 17, 2:35 PM
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    Stores put those little pots of cut up pineapple in the chiller so why shouldn't you keep a pineapple in the fridge?
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    The MSE story is slightly misleading. I believe the advice is to store out of the fridge for a whole pineapple - but in the fridge once you have cut it
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 30th Nov 17, 2:52 PM
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    The MSE story is slightly misleading. I believe the advice is to store out of the fridge for a whole pineapple - but in the fridge once you have cut it
    Originally posted by dlusman
    I agree.
    I think I heard a newsreader mention this yesterday during an interview with WRAP.
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 30th Nov 17, 3:57 PM
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    I always feel a bit irritated at the advice to keep some things "in a cool dry place". A lot of people don't have a suitably cool place apart from the fridge.
    • robin58
    • By robin58 30th Nov 17, 6:33 PM
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    Hallelujah

    I'm fed up of hiding packaging from my OH as he is OTT when it comes to use by dates. To him, it's out of date and therefore should not be eaten...

    My eggs are kept in a ceramic chicken out of the fridge - never had a problem there either.

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    Originally posted by Elliesmum
    Want to give your husband a heart attack.?

    Tell him I'm just finishing a packet of Basic Sainsbury's Muesli.

    Best before date on Packet; June 2017. Nought wrong with it.

    As long as you store foods, especially dried foods, in cool, non damp conditions they will last well past thier best before food dates.

    The only food I will use as fast as I can before the use dates are tinned tomatoes or anything in a tin which is acid based as it will eat the protective internal tinning away.

    Strange thing that also applies strangely to Heinz soups which taste 'tinny' after awhile I find.
    Last edited by robin58; 30-11-2017 at 6:35 PM.
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    • Elliesmum
    • By Elliesmum 30th Nov 17, 10:11 PM
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    Ha ha - I wouldn't dare. But then he's had Italian meatballs for tea with a seeds of change pasta sauce that was dated June 2017 tonight and is none the wiser. I bought 10 jars at 17p a jar when a shop was selling them off!

    I just hide the jar
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    • By LadyDee 1st Dec 17, 4:58 PM
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    I belong to the generation of people that were taught food facts by our mothers and don't need anything on the label to tell us how to treat food. I also learned not to buy more than I can eat in a certain time frame and that way there is no food wasted in my house.

    It is simply laziness on the part of people not wanting to think for themselves and thus needing to be TOLD what to do with their food after they have bought it.
    Originally posted by Wizard of Id
    I agree. What a lot of tosh these so-called experts come up with. Apart from anything else, this £1 billion that is going to be saved. It won't be the consumers who notice this "saving", because we'll be paying for all the new packaging that the snowflake generation is deemed to need.
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