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    • PeppaCoin
    • By PeppaCoin 28th Nov 17, 11:45 PM
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    Frustrating viewing feedback
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    • 28th Nov 17, 11:45 PM
    Frustrating viewing feedback 28th Nov 17 at 11:45 PM
    Our house has been on the market for around 3 weeks. We get the same feedback for every viewing:

    1) The third bedroom is too small
    2) The garden is all out the front and none out the back.

    Both these things are clearly shown on the floorplan/particulars. Maybe people are just giving those a cursory glance and not really taking the info on-board.

    It's frustrating when the feedback highlights things you cannot do anything about.
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    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 28th Nov 17, 11:47 PM
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    What have you got in the 3rd bed, is there anyway of making it 'look' bigger?
    • PeppaCoin
    • By PeppaCoin 28th Nov 17, 11:49 PM
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    Our baby sleeps in there at the minute it's so a cotbed and a small Talbot. That's it!
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    • PeppaCoin
    • By PeppaCoin 28th Nov 17, 11:51 PM
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    Sorry tallboy!
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    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 29th Nov 17, 12:05 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 12:05 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 12:05 AM
    the average house hunter is incapable of understanding anything until they see it with their own eyes.

    even then some will still be unable to visualise an alternative. They see a bedroom that can "only" fit a cot, so they think it "cannot" fit a normal bed and therefore is too small. Hence the vendors trick of putting a bedcover over cardboard boxes laid out in the shape and size of a normal bed to show the room can have one even if the vendor does not have an actual bed to use themselves

    there will always be people who look at houses to get ideas, be nosey, have nothing else to do, or simply cannot think for themselves. there is nothing you do do about them except see them out the door and hope the next lot are genuine.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 29th Nov 17, 5:31 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 5:31 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 5:31 AM
    bedroom, you may need to de-nursery it to make it look like a bedroom.

    With the garden can you make the outside space especially at the back look attractive and usable, not always easy in the winter.
    eg is there enough space for a table and BBQ.
    • Gwendo40
    • By Gwendo40 29th Nov 17, 5:45 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 5:45 AM
    It's usually the case that when you consistently getting viewer feedback that doesn't really make sense or they comment on things that are obvious in the advert, it's because they're being too polite to offer their real opinion that it's simply not worth the asking price.
    • warby68
    • By warby68 29th Nov 17, 5:51 AM
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    Agree with the above.

    Feedback can be tricky - people often don't want to say much and pick 'obvious' downsides instead.

    You could try doing viewings yourself and see if you pick anything else up that might be an issue.

    You will have to consider price though - a lot of feedback is actually just 'code' for 'not worth the price' as is a pattern of plenty of viewings but no offers.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 29th Nov 17, 6:38 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 6:38 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 6:38 AM
    Price must be in range if people are viewing.

    have you done a "more like this" on rightmove Including SSTC to see what people are buying add in the sold prices in the area you can get an idea of where you with price.

    there is always the option to provide a link. but thick skin helps as this is the internet.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 29th Nov 17, 7:25 AM
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    2) The garden is all out the front and none out the back.
    Originally posted by PeppaCoin
    If this statement is literally true, the house will be worth significantly less than others without this disadvantage.

    One glance at Rightmove shows that half the population has no interest in gardening, but people still want a space outside which is safe for children and they don't count areas at the front in that.

    Similarly, although many houses have rear gardens that are overlooked, not many buyers have a positive mental image of barbecuing or hanging out their smalls in public.
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    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 29th Nov 17, 7:56 AM
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    Both these things are clearly shown on the floorplan/particulars. Maybe people are just giving those a cursory glance and not really taking the info on-board.
    Originally posted by PeppaCoin
    Is your complaint that you don't want your time wasted by viewers who don't appreciate the size of the third bedroom, and the garden layout?

    If so, I guess you could instruct the EA to add a prominent note to the listing saying something like:
    "Please Note: The third bedroom is very small and there is no rear garden"
    And when people call to arrange a viewing, ask the EA to repeat that info, before making an appointment.

    Maybe you would get fewer wasted viewings, but I'm not sure if it would help sell the property.
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 29th Nov 17, 8:16 AM
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    Sometimes people will still take a chance in case they think the disadvantages are not as bad as it looks on paper. But if it really as a bad as they feared then you’ll eventually get that feedback. And ultimately that comes down to price.

    “Third bedroom too small and rear garden not big enough” = “too expensive considering these downsides now we’ve seen them in reality”
    • elverson
    • By elverson 29th Nov 17, 8:22 AM
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    If you were to market it as a "2 bedroom + study/spare room" would it then be overpriced locally?
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 29th Nov 17, 8:26 AM
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    Sometimes people will still take a chance in case they think the disadvantages are not as bad as it looks on paper. But if it really as a bad as they feared then you’ll eventually get that feedback. And ultimately that comes down to price.
    Originally posted by AnotherJoe
    Agreed to an extent, but I wouldn't say it's always down to price, often other properties will be preferred for other reasons which you can't do anything about (or possibly ones which the viewers can't really put a finger on). Dropping the price isn't a solution if I can afford the better house. Though I suppose may bring in another group of buyers for whom your house is now the better one.
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 29th Nov 17, 8:28 AM
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    Our baby sleeps in there at the minute it's so a cotbed and a small Talbot. That's it!
    Originally posted by PeppaCoin
    If you genuinely can't fit a standard single bed in there I'd be reluctant to call it a bedroom.
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 29th Nov 17, 8:32 AM
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    All property purchases are a compromise on things you'd like to have and things you don't like but can put up with. Only by seeing a property by visiting it can you discover whether that property has enough on the plus side to outweigh the negative side, in conjunction with the price.

    So far, amongst the people who have viewed it, there aren't enough of the positives somewhere else in the house, or in the location, to outweigh the small bedroom or the lack of back garden, at the price you're asking. What these positives will be will be different for every viewer.
    • gettingtheresometime
    • By gettingtheresometime 29th Nov 17, 9:12 AM
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    If you can decamp the baby to another room, can you turn itinto some sort of study?


    One of our rooms is so small you can get a single bed in there (as there was one when we viewed) but we chose to use it as a study (ie somewhere where you can work on the computer in relative peace).


    We've got a full size desk, together with a printer stand and a cupboard, which makes the room seem much larger than it appeared when we viewed it
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    • cloo
    • By cloo 29th Nov 17, 10:03 AM
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    I wouldn't view a place with such a small third bedroom if I was looking for a 3-bed. I agree it might be better marketed as a 2-bed + study, which makes the little room look like a bonus, rather than it being a not-really-3-bed.
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 29th Nov 17, 10:05 AM
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    There's nothing you can do about the bedroom or the garden (other than perhaps drop the price to compensate), so it's pointless getting frustrated about it.

    If what you're actually getting annoyed about it is wasting time conducting viewings for people who clearly aren't interested, then get the EA to do them. That's part of what you pay an agent for, so waste the agent's time, not yours!
    • Out, Vile Jelly
    • By Out, Vile Jelly 29th Nov 17, 10:21 AM
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    I wouldn't necessarily view a large front garden as a negative, providing it wasn't shady, North facing or boggy.

    Have you made it look useable ie does it have decent fencing/hedging and a secure gate? Or is it just a big ugly driveway?
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