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    • chezybezy
    • By chezybezy 26th Nov 17, 9:56 PM
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    Internal door latch doesn't have bolt through fixing holes
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    • 26th Nov 17, 9:56 PM
    Internal door latch doesn't have bolt through fixing holes 26th Nov 17 at 9:56 PM
    Bit of an odd one this, I've some "newer" handles for my internal doors.
    Taken off the old rectangular back plate ones, checked the bar looks the right length etc, but the existing internal latch thingy doesn't have holes for the "bolt through fixings" , any chance I can just drill through the metal lock thing? Or some other "money saving expert award worthy" work around?
    Fingers crossed this new home is proving interesting
    - Chez
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    • Private Church
    • By Private Church 26th Nov 17, 10:07 PM
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    • 26th Nov 17, 10:07 PM
    Most bolt through handles can usually be fixed in a number of ways. Sometimes it can be fixing screws behind a cover which then screw over the handle to cover the fixings and some have an allen key fixing underneath the handle. If you can't fix them via another way then just buy a new latch and fit that.

    Can you post a photo of the handles or a link to them?
    • chezybezy
    • By chezybezy 26th Nov 17, 10:12 PM
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    • 26th Nov 17, 10:12 PM
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    • 26th Nov 17, 10:12 PM
    Most bolt through handles can usually be fixed in a number of ways. Sometimes it can be fixing screws behind a cover which then screw over the handle to cover the fixings and some have an allen key fixing underneath the handle. If you can't fix them via another way then just buy a new latch and fit that.
    Originally posted by Private Church
    Thank you, er this has a cover plate that goes over the 4 fixings (in a circle around). 2x bolt through, 2x screw. How do i select a new latch? Can I get one that'll fit the holes that are already there for the existing one? I'm a bit confused.
    - Chez
    • Private Church
    • By Private Church 26th Nov 17, 10:19 PM
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    • 26th Nov 17, 10:19 PM
    Thank you, er this has a cover plate that goes over the 4 fixings (in a circle around). 2x bolt through, 2x screw. How do i select a new latch? Can I get one that'll fit the holes that are already there for the existing one? I'm a bit confused.
    Originally posted by chezybezy
    It sounds like you may not need a new latch. If you unscrew the circular cover from the handle it will reveal 4 holes so all you need to do is screw the handle on to the door with 4 "normal" screws .You just need to make sure the screws aren't too long so they hit the metal latch.If you turn the handles upside down is there a hole underneath with an "allen key" screw?. If there is then in the box the handles came in there should be a small "allen Key which you can tighten the handles onto the handle "spindle".The spindle is the square metal bar that goes through the handles and door.. As I say "bolt through" handles can usually be fitted in a number of ways and quite often theres no need for bolt through fixings, they do make a very secure fixing though..
    Last edited by Private Church; 26-11-2017 at 10:27 PM.
    • chezybezy
    • By chezybezy 26th Nov 17, 10:42 PM
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    • 26th Nov 17, 10:42 PM
    It sounds like you may not need a new latch. If you unscrew the circular cover from the handle it will reveal 4 holes so all you need to do is screw the handle on to the door with 4 "normal" screws .You just need to make sure the screws aren't too long so they hit the metal latch.If you turn the handles upside down is there a hole underneath with an "allen key" screw?. If there is then in the box the handles came in there should be a small "allen Key which you can tighten the handles onto the handle "spindle".The spindle is the square metal bar that goes through the handles and door.. As I say "bolt through" handles can usually be fitted in a number of ways and quite often theres no need for bolt through fixings, they do make a very secure fixing though..
    Originally posted by Private Church
    Oh that would be awesome, but I knowing my luck. Would some pics help, as I really appreciate your assistance.
    I think the screws will be too long, any for that matter I think would be. The door is ~3.5cm thick and the screws ~2.5 long, obviously the handle would pull it out further. Yes these have the Allen key hole upside down and the box has one in.
    Fingers crossed and thank you
    - Chez
    • Private Church
    • By Private Church 27th Nov 17, 5:16 PM
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    • 27th Nov 17, 5:16 PM
    Oh that would be awesome, but I knowing my luck. Would some pics help, as I really appreciate your assistance.
    I think the screws will be too long, any for that matter I think would be. The door is ~3.5cm thick and the screws ~2.5 long, obviously the handle would pull it out further. Yes these have the Allen key hole upside down and the box has one in.
    Fingers crossed and thank you
    Originally posted by chezybezy
    If I remember correctly on most bolt through handles there are 6 holes with holes at 9 and 3 o'clock for bolt through fixings but also holes at around 10 and 2 and 7 and 4 o'clock so if you use these holes you shouldn't hit the metal body of the latch with the screws. 2.5cm screws should be fine , you won't have any problem with one screw hitting the opposite screw because as you screw the screw in and it touches the opposite screw it will just veer off a bit..

    When you've fixed the handles tighten up the allen screws underneath and they won't fall off ,promise...

    Good luck and hope it works
    • chezybezy
    • By chezybezy 30th Nov 17, 2:57 AM
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    • 30th Nov 17, 2:57 AM
    If I remember correctly on most bolt through handles there are 6 holes with holes at 9 and 3 o'clock for bolt through fixings but also holes at around 10 and 2 and 7 and 4 o'clock so if you use these holes you shouldn't hit the metal body of the latch with the screws. 2.5cm screws should be fine , you won't have any problem with one screw hitting the opposite screw because as you screw the screw in and it touches the opposite screw it will just veer off a bit..

    When you've fixed the handles tighten up the allen screws underneath and they won't fall off ,promise...

    Good luck and hope it works
    Originally posted by Private Church
    Thanks! That's what I needed to hear!.
    Sadly the silly thing only has 4 holes not 6. I went ahead anyways and did my best. picked up 1 newer latch body when I was in a cheapy shop yesterday as it caught my eye just to try as thought relying on 2 screws and the nut to hold might be an issue. Thought if it works I can grab more next month.

    Had trouble with existing holes not being level, who does that for a latch body thing?! Short of new door I'm unsure how I can level the existing holes. Had to shorten the bolt through screw too. Anyways it's on, mostly level however it doesn't spring back, my research indicates if anything isn't level or pinches or catches, it won't. The whole house isn't level, heck even the door and handle doesn't seem flush, so I think I'm doomed. Also I need to lower the latch strike plate thing, on the frame too. I'm going to try borrow a chisel for that even I can't think of a way without using the correct tool. *grins*
    Any thoughts? I'm currently 1 handle in and the rest glaring at me sniggering.
    Thank you very much for the help and reassurance.
    Last edited by chezybezy; 30-11-2017 at 3:01 AM.
    - Chez
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