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    • Hugandkiss
    • By Hugandkiss 8th Nov 17, 10:32 PM
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    End of PDSA Veterinary services.
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    • 8th Nov 17, 10:32 PM
    End of PDSA Veterinary services. 8th Nov 17 at 10:32 PM
    I have received today a letter and leaflet from the PDSA stating that they can no longer afford to fund veterinary services for people who are in receipt of state benefit. The previous scheme is to run until the end of the six month certificate previously awarded to each client to be presented at their vets and a contribution made to the cost. In place, via the leaflet, there is now a £4.50 charge each month and if I understand this correctly gives you access to one vet consultation per 12 month plus one booster also. There is then 20% off FULL price vet treatment and 15 % off PDSA Vet Insurance. Whilst I understand their plight, I can't help thinking that people like myself who have to carefully budget, would be able to consider how much a price that treatment may be, even to find out is going to cost the price of a consultation. We, who only company and joy is a valued pet will now have to keep our fingers crossed and keep back the money to have our pet put down humanely if they get ill. The price of having to do that I know in monetary terms and that of heartache.
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    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 8th Nov 17, 10:51 PM
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    It’s sad that as w charity they can no longer provide free & heavily subsidised animal treatment - but we are in quite tough economic times. I guess donations to animal charities have slowed down. I doubt it was a decision they came to willingly.
    It will be that they can no longer afford to give this away.

    The £4.50 a month is a good deal. I have something similar with Pets at home, but it’s £10.00 a month for a cat. I have insurance with them too (or rather petplan), it’s about £23.00 - worth looking into the PDSA one.
    • krlyr
    • By krlyr 8th Nov 17, 10:55 PM
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    Sorry, but in my opinion pets are optional luxuries. I would not expect to be subsidised for a flatscreen TV or a holiday abroad because I was on benefits, if I've chosen to have a pet then I should be budgeting to afford it.

    I can see it being tough having budgeted for a dog with the PDSA treatment available, and I hope you and others can find long-term solutions to afford the dogs, but do think its ultimately the owners responsibility to find funds for treating their pets, not the charity. After all, there's not a tax we've been paying to fund an "NHS for pets".

    This article may be worth looking into for alternatives though - https://www.money.co.uk/pet-insurance/how-to-get-help-with-vet-bills.htm
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 9th Nov 17, 8:00 AM
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    Sorry, but in my opinion pets are optional luxuries. I would not expect to be subsidised for a flatscreen TV or a holiday abroad because I was on benefits, if I've chosen to have a pet then I should be budgeting to afford it.

    I can see it being tough having budgeted for a dog with the PDSA treatment available, and I hope you and others can find long-term solutions to afford the dogs, but do think its ultimately the owners responsibility to find funds for treating their pets, not the charity. After all, there's not a tax we've been paying to fund an "NHS for pets".

    This article may be worth looking into for alternatives though - https://www.money.co.uk/pet-insurance/how-to-get-help-with-vet-bills.htm
    Originally posted by krlyr
    Of course, there are instances where someone has had a pet for some time - which they've been able to afford to feed and keep in good health - and then their finances take an unexpected downward turn.

    Marriage breakup, redundancy, ill health - even death.
    • Fosterdog
    • By Fosterdog 9th Nov 17, 8:49 AM
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    Of course, there are instances where someone has had a pet for some time - which they've been able to afford to feed and keep in good health - and then their finances take an unexpected downward turn.

    Marriage breakup, redundancy, ill health - even death.
    Originally posted by Pollycat
    Of course there are genuine cases and that what has kept people donating to the charities for so many years but there are a lot more people who are already in financial difficulties and choose to go out and get a pet or pets and then expect others to pick up the tab. There has been an increase lately of people starting gofundme fundraisers to pay for vetinary treatment and when you read into the story behind it they are the ones who took on a pet, no insurance and no way of self insuring and then wanting others to help.
    • Browntoa
    • By Browntoa 9th Nov 17, 9:02 AM
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    • 9th Nov 17, 9:02 AM
    Friend of mine worked in one down here , people thought that the PDSA would pay everything for as many pets as they owned so they brought in a rule that you could only register 1 . Same people started abusing that system by swapping the registered pet .

    The abuse by the few spoils it for those who really need it
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    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 9th Nov 17, 9:14 AM
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    I think its a real shame, people who are elderly or isolated or who have mental health problems or who are in poverty so can't do much in the way of leisure activities/socialising etc. get so much happiness from having a pet, and there are health benefits too.

    They are a charity though, and if they can't afford to keep providing the service, then there's not a lot they can do about it.
    • Judi
    • By Judi 9th Nov 17, 9:27 AM
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    It's the animals that will suffer the most. There will always be irresponsible people who will take on a dog on whim without thinking of the implications if they are Ill.
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    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 9th Nov 17, 7:21 PM
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    • 9th Nov 17, 7:21 PM
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    These changes only apply to those who received subsidised treatment at their local vet under the Pet Practice Scheme.

    One pet per client can still be treated at a PDSA hospital if you live in the catchment area for one and are eligible for treatment.
    • POPPYOSCAR
    • By POPPYOSCAR 9th Nov 17, 7:43 PM
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    These changes only apply to those who received subsidised treatment at their local vet under the Pet Practice Scheme.

    One pet per client can still be treated at a PDSA hospital if you live in the catchment area for one and are eligible for treatment.
    Originally posted by sheramber
    That explains a lot.

    I was thinking what is the point of them then?

    Now I understand.
    • JoBatch80
    • By JoBatch80 22nd Nov 17, 12:28 PM
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    I think its a real shame, people who are elderly or isolated or who have mental health problems or who are in poverty so can't do much in the way of leisure activities/socialising etc. get so much happiness from having a pet, and there are health benefits too.

    They are a charity though, and if they can't afford to keep providing the service, then there's not a lot they can do about it.
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    If people have health conditions or mobility issues or poverty - are these the best environments for a pet to be in??? Flip it the other way - children would get support from authorities in those households, whereas it doesn't exist to help pets. Personally, this could be tantamount to abuse by putting a pet in an unsuitable household; why aren't their needs being factored in here? Humans domesticated these animals, its now up to us to care for them appropriately.
    Once you've swam in the sea, a lake will no longer do.
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 22nd Nov 17, 1:30 PM
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    If people have health conditions or mobility issues or poverty - are these the best environments for a pet to be in??? Flip it the other way - children would get support from authorities in those households, whereas it doesn't exist to help pets. Personally, this could be tantamount to abuse by putting a pet in an unsuitable household; why aren't their needs being factored in here? Humans domesticated these animals, its now up to us to care for them appropriately.
    Originally posted by JoBatch80
    Those dogs will be with their owners almost 24/7 and with help from groups like the PDSA and maybe from family/neighbours with walking, those dogs are probably a lot happier than dogs that live with middle class families who leave them home alone 5 days a week.
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 22nd Nov 17, 4:44 PM
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    Who said anybody put a pet in that position?

    Many of these people had their pets before they had health or mobility issues or fell into poverty. People get ill. People die. Marriages split up. Any of these situations can happen suddenly to anyone.

    Have you tried to get a rescue to take a pet you can no longer care for? That is virtually impossible. They are full and a pet in a home is safe, unlike those found straying.

    What do you suggest someone who finds themselves suddenly in any of these positions does ? Euthanise their beloved pet who may be all they have left?

    When you are at rock bottom that pet may be the only thing that gets you up in the morning and keeps you going.
    • Fireflyaway
    • By Fireflyaway 6th Dec 17, 10:44 PM
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    Unfortunately organisations like this are abused. Same with food banks for us humans. Lazy people will get a pet knowing someone else will foot the bill. Then hard working people on low incomes or the elderly or disabled lose out.
    I know circumstances can change and that's fine, but if someone can't afford a pet, they shouldn't get one. Pets are not a right or a necessity. Same with kids.
    Like many things in life its the lazy scroungers that ruin it for genuine folk.
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