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  • Doc N
    • #2
    • 12th Oct 07, 10:31 AM
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    • 12th Oct 07, 10:31 AM
    You might find this of interest:

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/columnists/article.html?in_article_id=407993&in_page_id=19&in _author_id=5

    I had some dealings with them, and I won't be having any more.
  • mr green
    • #3
    • 12th Oct 07, 11:12 AM
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    • 12th Oct 07, 11:12 AM
    Thank you very much Doc. I am already retired so it wasnt that which I was interested in. It was that although I do get the Mail fairly regularly I had'nt seen anything about this company. I knew somebody on here would have the answer. As hetherington says, " Why is that bloke not retired himself." ????
    Thank you again.
  • Pobby
    • #4
    • 12th Oct 07, 11:14 AM
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    • 12th Oct 07, 11:14 AM
    I have suscribed to Property Auction News.There are interesting articles about buying from auctions.Each month they also review an auction showing prices that properties have gone for.As for investing in property right now,well what can I say?

    Interesting to see what possible savings you could make rather than taking the usual route in buying.Just be very careful and research any properties you may consider going for.btw,often places sell at auction at well over the reserve price.

    My final bit of advice is WAIT!It is unclear at the moment where property prices are going.As someone who has taken a keen interest in the subject,I think we are about just starting in a downturn in house prices.Just how far that will go is not plain yet but I would expect some substancial drops.This is already happening on new build.
  • TTMCMschine
    • #5
    • 12th Oct 07, 11:17 AM
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    • 12th Oct 07, 11:17 AM
    OMG! Theres a blast from the past! I used to get oodles of Streetwise junk through the letter box, I think I once bought something off them around 15 years ago & thought "what a waste of money."

    I think they did have a successful publication to do with speed limits & how to avoid getting speeding fines once - the rest in my experience was rubbish.
  • unluckycustomer
    • #6
    • 28th Mar 11, 4:07 PM
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    • 28th Mar 11, 4:07 PM
    Beware of Streetwise! They are now resorting to the tactics of the most untrustworthy of “business opportunity” sellers. All reputable sellers offer 30 day, or 60 day, or 90 days money back guarantees. And they honour their guarantee by refunding money.

    Streetwise used to be one of the few you could trust. But with the latest product they are marketing they have relied on their previous good name to trap even the most wary of customers.

    They are selling a system called “The Ratchet System” which they charge 497 for and give a 90 day money back guarantee. A lot of money to pay for a system. But if you’ve developed confidence in a company you pay up because you take them at their word and feel your money is safe.

    The Ratchet System is a staking plan that uses the age old methods of Arbitrage and Dutching. Something that anyone who has been betting on the horses for any length of time is familiar with. As soon as I read the manual I realised that it was something that was of no use to me because

    A) I discounted this form of betting some years ago and
    B) I have had quite a few of my online betting accounts restricted because of my success in betting and so would be unable to place the bets as described.

    Within half an hour of getting the parcel from Streetwise I emailed them to explain this and applied to get back my 497. The guarantee stated “no need to return the system manual”.

    Those of you who have been trapped by rogue companies in the past can relate to my astonishment and shock when I was refused a refund. I spent a week trying to talk to the owner Mr Harrison but he hides behind his office staff. Another avoidance technique that disreputable companies use. If you are reputable you talk to your customers.

    Their guarantee quotes the “system originator” George Elliot saying “I don’t want to keep a penny of your money if you can’t benefit from what I’ve discovered”.

    Well I believed that because Streetwise have always honoured their guarantees. 497 is a lot of money and I certainly wouldn’t have paid that to a company I hadn’t heard of before. Not many people would.

    But despite emailing Mr Harrison many times and politely pointing out that I was already aware of the staking plan and don’t bet using staking systems he refused to talk to me and I got a letter from their accounts department telling me that I have to use the system for 90 days before they will consider a refund.

    This was not made clear in their Guarantee and if it was I would not have ordered the manual. I am not stupid and the guarantee did not make it clear that you couldn’t get your money back for 3 months.

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    Last edited by MSE Investigator; 04-04-2011 at 10:12 AM. Reason: pending investigation
  • Richie35
    • #7
    • 29th Mar 11, 1:43 PM
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    • 29th Mar 11, 1:43 PM
    This sounds very strange. I've used Streetwise a few times and got a refund from them once, no bother. They'vbe been around for ages. How many times have you asked for a refund from them in the past and how many times have you been turned down?
  • maninthestreet
    • #8
    • 29th Mar 11, 2:55 PM
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    • 29th Mar 11, 2:55 PM
    This sounds very strange. I've used Streetwise a few times and got a refund from them once, no bother. They'vbe been around for ages. How many times have you asked for a refund from them in the past and how many times have you been turned down?
    Originally posted by Richie35
    How coincidental that you happened to join this site just after a negative post about Streetwise was posted.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Richie35
    • #9
    • 29th Mar 11, 3:36 PM
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    • 29th Mar 11, 3:36 PM
    How coincidental that you happened to join this site just after a negative post about Streetwise was posted.
    Originally posted by maninthestreet
    Not really sunshine. Arrived at this from a Google search on something else and signed up. It's not the first negative post, as far as I can see. I've got no axe to grind either way. Just adding my limited experience.

    Have to say what's less surprising is that you turned up here with a totally pointless post with nothing of value to contribute. You can't rack up 8,202 posts without having far too much time on your hands and a talent for the tiresome. I can only assume you're being sponsored by Action For Bores or are going for a record. Keep smilin'.
  • Richie35
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    Hi,

    I see. Who alleged they are in financial difficulties? Is that just an assumption you've made because you've received several refunds from them before, or do you have some other information to back that up? I appreciate you sharing your concern, but I just want to be sure there's something behind this rather than 'sour grapes' because you've had some sort of dispute. Not trying to pour cold water on your warning, but I receive promotions from them all the time and have done okay with some of the stuff they've sent me. If I'm going to stay clear of them, just want to be sure there's a problem.
    Last edited by MSE Investigator; 04-04-2011 at 10:13 AM. Reason: pending investigation
  • unluckycustomer
    It certainly isn't sour grapes. I have been on the Streetwise mailing list for some 20 years since they started. It's because their behaviour is so out of character that it is cause for concern

    The person who alleged that Streetwise were having financial difficulties is a businessman in Rotherham. Where Streetwise is based.

    On another thread I have read this evening that Streetwise has applied to change it's name.

    For Mr Harrison (owner of Streetwise) to promote a high value product and not publish Terms and Conditions but state that there is a 90 day money back guarantee, and then when people apply for a refund they are told that they have to use the system for 90 days before being eligible for a refund, is completely out of character.

    That's why it is such a concern. Thankfully I paid by credit card and they have put the transaction "in dispute" and have frozen the payment because Streetwise did not say in the guarantee that customers have to use the system for 90 days. They also failed to publish Terms and Conditions in the sales letter or product manual.

    To be frank what Mr Harrison has done is crazy. There are many others who paid for the Ratchet System (which is just a staking system using Arbitration and Dutching) and have applied for a refund to get back their 497. I wouldn't have paid that much to assess the product if I hadn't built up trust that they would honour their guarantee.

    So it's far from sour grapes I can assure.
  • maninthestreet
    Not really sunshine. Arrived at this from a Google search on something else and signed up. It's not the first negative post, as far as I can see. I've got no axe to grind either way. Just adding my limited experience.

    Have to say what's less surprising is that you turned up here with a totally pointless post with nothing of value to contribute. You can't rack up 8,202 posts without having far too much time on your hands and a talent for the tiresome. I can only assume you're being sponsored by Action For Bores or are going for a record. Keep smilin'.
    Originally posted by Richie35
    If you want to be taken seriously on these forums you're going to have to change your attitude somewhat. I suggest you dig a bit deeper on here and you will find members with far higher post counts than my mere 8,000 odd. As a 'newbie' you have a lot to learn.....
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Richie35
    If you want to be taken seriously on these forums you're going to have to change your attitude somewhat. I suggest you dig a bit deeper on here and you will find members with far higher post counts than my mere 8,000 odd. As a 'newbie' you have a lot to learn.....
    Originally posted by maninthestreet
    Sorry I offended you. I just saw someone making a pointless comment on a matter they clearly had no information on, or knowledge of and assumed they were an idiot with too much time on their hands. Thanks for the warning about not being taken seriously on here. I shall console myself with being taken seriously in real life instead.
  • Richie35
    It certainly isn't sour grapes. I have been on the Streetwise mailing list for some 20 years since they started. It's because their behaviour is so out of character that it is cause for concern

    The person who alleged that Streetwise were having financial difficulties is a businessman in Rotherham. Where Streetwise is based.

    On another thread I have read this evening that Streetwise has applied to change it's name.

    For Mr Harrison (owner of Streetwise) to promote a high value product and not publish Terms and Conditions but state that there is a 90 day money back guarantee, and then when people apply for a refund they are told that they have to use the system for 90 days before being eligible for a refund, is completely out of character.

    That's why it is such a concern. Thankfully I paid by credit card and they have put the transaction "in dispute" and have frozen the payment because Streetwise did not say in the guarantee that customers have to use the system for 90 days. They also failed to publish Terms and Conditions in the sales letter or product manual.

    To be frank what Mr Harrison has done is crazy. There are many others who paid for the Ratchet System (which is just a staking system using Arbitration and Dutching) and have applied for a refund to get back their 497. I wouldn't have paid that much to assess the product if I hadn't built up trust that they would honour their guarantee.

    So it's far from sour grapes I can assure.
    Originally posted by unluckycustomer

    Okay thanks. If I can give you a word of warning. I'd be very careful about making allegations about the financial status of companies you don't have first hand knowledge of. A friend of mine put something similar on a forum, and the company forced the site owner to reveal his identity and then gave him all sorts of hassle, claiming damaged reputation. Still, if you're sure I don't suppose you've got much to worry about.
  • Richie35
    your word of warning is noted as i believe you have a vested interest? hows this for you?

    streetwise are rumoured to be in financial difficulty allegedly ..hows that? why can they not honour a refund..is it because they are allegedly skint or just have problems with money supply allegedly.




















    The person who alleged that Streetwise were having financial difficulties is a businessman in Rotherham. Where Streetwise is based.
    Originally posted by geoffky
    Certainly learning something here. I'm learning that this is a site populated by tiresome busybodies. Another idiot with a huge post count comes out of the woodwork and sticks his nose into a matter which as far as I can see, he has absolutely no knowledge of whatsoever.

    It says more about you than it does about me, that you make the assumption that anyone who doesn't automatically join some pathetic lynch mob, despite knowing sod all about the specific situation, must have a vested interest.

    In my book, such a person has a rational brain, not a vested interest. He doesn't jump to conclusions or take sides without knowing some hard facts. I was just looking for an appropriate smiley, but it looks like 'Sad Little Man' isn't available on this site. Shame, it would be useful.

    Oh, and if you think sticking 'allegedly' in front of every rumour will save you should the s***t hit the fan, I'd start saving up now.
  • unluckycustomer
    I've just found a really interesting article on Streetwise Publications written by Tony Hetherington of The Mail On Sunday. It was written in 2006 but gives a disconcerting insight in to Mr Harrison.

    "STREETWISE Publications is one of those firms that seems to make its money by selling wonderful schemes for getting rich, rather than by actually putting them into practice.

    Its new offering is promoted in mailshots by boss John Harrison, who says the scheme is like ripping off the banks every day and getting away with it.

    The mailshot says: 'Just imagine the perfect crime. You spend 20 minutes in the evening setting up the sting. In the morning you go off to work, just like normal. And when you get home 300-500 has 'mysteriously' landed in your bank account'.

    Harrison's mailshots are accompanied by an even more dramatic pamphlet, supposedly written by an anonymous 25-year-old who spent a few years working in the City. 'Andy' offers to spill the beans on a 'highly coveted' secret system for trading on the foreign exchange markets.

    Andy refers to 'my humble background', and 'my working class origins'. His employers were 'old school-tie fat cats', he says, before hinting that because he was sworn to confidentiality, 'the elite' would be very unhappy with him if they knew his identity.

    He even claims to be offering his scheme because of 'my conscience nagging at me'. Then he rather spoils the Robin Hood image by asking you to stump up 2,322, payable to Rotherhambased Streetwise.

    I asked Harrison who slapped the secret label on this scheme. I asked who would be upset by Andy's revelations, or is the secrecy a sales ploy. And I asked him whether he intended to use Andy's tips himself, enabling him, according to his own mailshots, to retire within a year.

    I did not get a single answer. Instead, Harrison described his mailshot as 'a private customer communication', and gave me copies of letters from unnamed satisfied customers, plus a few from people who had successfully claimed refunds.

    Oddly, included with these was a letter Harrison said he received from a private investigator who had taken a Streetwise training course and was offering to reveal my address and other family details. In short, it was an 'I-know-where-you-live letter', though Harrison denied this.

    Harrison has at least one associate described in court as a 'real villain'. Last October, I reported that Streetwise was promoting 4,000 seminars on how to make money by setting up a mail order business. The seminars were given by James Sheridan, alias James Edwards, who was condemned by a judge as the man behind a fake arthritis cure scam that cost victims hundreds of thousands of pounds.

    Harrison should realise that people really can be judged by the company they keep. Anyone tempted by Anonymous Andy's scheme should ask Harrison the questions I asked and he refused to answer. No answers, no 2,322."
  • googler
    I've had a subscription to Property Auction News for a few years, but now cancelled.

    For info, it broadly consists of regular reviews of auctions past - so if you can take any value from reading about what's sold at auction already, all good and well - but after a few issues, I was left with a 'missed the boat' feeling.

    Another regular article is a list of auction houses, with capsule summaries of what they generally offer and when their auctions are held - but if you've read this one month, it's generally the same the next.

    Inbetween these are various commentary articles, invitations to join investment 'clubs' or invest in 'sure fire' development opportunities in foreign parts, and a miscellany of classified ads for same.

    Be advised that Streetwise seem to share their database with all manner of money-making opportunity sellers, so be prepared to receive all sorts of invitations for

    Spread Betting
    Foreign Exchange Trading
    Online Blackjack
    eBay Powerselling or Dropshipping

    and various other schemes which promise to drop hundreds and thousands into your bank account for very little effort.....
    Last edited by googler; 31-03-2011 at 4:58 PM.
  • Richie35
    I've just found a really interesting article on Streetwise Publications written by Tony Hetherington of The Mail On Sunday. It was written in 2006 but gives a disconcerting insight in to Mr Harrison.

    "STREETWISE Publications is one of those firms that seems to make its money by selling wonderful schemes for getting rich, rather than by actually putting them into practice.

    Its new offering is promoted in mailshots by boss John Harrison, who says the scheme is like ripping off the banks every day and getting away with it.

    The mailshot says: 'Just imagine the perfect crime. You spend 20 minutes in the evening setting up the sting. In the morning you go off to work, just like normal. And when you get home 300-500 has 'mysteriously' landed in your bank account'.

    Harrison's mailshots are accompanied by an even more dramatic pamphlet, supposedly written by an anonymous 25-year-old who spent a few years working in the City. 'Andy' offers to spill the beans on a 'highly coveted' secret system for trading on the foreign exchange markets.

    Andy refers to 'my humble background', and 'my working class origins'. His employers were 'old school-tie fat cats', he says, before hinting that because he was sworn to confidentiality, 'the elite' would be very unhappy with him if they knew his identity.

    He even claims to be offering his scheme because of 'my conscience nagging at me'. Then he rather spoils the Robin Hood image by asking you to stump up 2,322, payable to Rotherhambased Streetwise.

    I asked Harrison who slapped the secret label on this scheme. I asked who would be upset by Andy's revelations, or is the secrecy a sales ploy. And I asked him whether he intended to use Andy's tips himself, enabling him, according to his own mailshots, to retire within a year.

    I did not get a single answer. Instead, Harrison described his mailshot as 'a private customer communication', and gave me copies of letters from unnamed satisfied customers, plus a few from people who had successfully claimed refunds.

    Oddly, included with these was a letter Harrison said he received from a private investigator who had taken a Streetwise training course and was offering to reveal my address and other family details. In short, it was an 'I-know-where-you-live letter', though Harrison denied this.

    Harrison has at least one associate described in court as a 'real villain'. Last October, I reported that Streetwise was promoting 4,000 seminars on how to make money by setting up a mail order business. The seminars were given by James Sheridan, alias James Edwards, who was condemned by a judge as the man behind a fake arthritis cure scam that cost victims hundreds of thousands of pounds.

    Harrison should realise that people really can be judged by the company they keep. Anyone tempted by Anonymous Andy's scheme should ask Harrison the questions I asked and he refused to answer. No answers, no 2,322."
    Originally posted by unluckycustomer
    Can't comment on the specific situation there, (and neither, I suspect can you) however, I do know that it's possible for ANYONE to get stitched up by the media. To get an idea of what I mean, type 'Martin Lewis Channel 4' into Google and then watch on Youtube. Totally unfair, but that's the media for you.

    That's why I prefer to make up my own mind on stuff, rather than relying on journalists with space to fill or a show to make more interesting.
  • unluckycustomer
    You have completely missed the point again. Mr Harrison of Streetwise has just stitched me up along with many others. I find it very strange how you keep defending such behaviour. I appreciate that you are probably very young and have yet to experience much of the world. I was very naive and trusting when I was young. Unfortunately the world isn't the friendly sincere place that we like to think it is. Or wish that it was.
  • Richie35
    You have completely missed the point again. Mr Harrison of Streetwise has just stitched me up along with many others. I find it very strange how you keep defending such behaviour. I appreciate that you are probably very young and have yet to experience much of the world. I was very naive and trusting when I was young. Unfortunately the world isn't the friendly sincere place that we like to think it is. Or wish that it was.
    Originally posted by unluckycustomer

    No, it's you that's missing the point. I'm not defending any 'behaviour'. Where have I defended any behaviour? Simply pointing out that you can't take everything you see, hear or read at face value. Sorry if you find that 'strange'. Maybe it is for a site like this, which seems to attract more than its fair share of people who are prepared to believe any third hand nonesense if it fits in with their jaundiced view of the world. Instead of patronising me because of my age, maybe you should give some thought to applying a bit of critical thinking to what's put in front of you.
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