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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 2nd Nov 17, 9:30 AM
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    Incredible ATW charge
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 9:30 AM
    Incredible ATW charge 2nd Nov 17 at 9:30 AM
    I have just been offered 6 - 2 hour sessions of, presumbly one to one, Memory Strategy Training - 100% paid for by ATW.....
    The company, selected to carry out the training is charging DWP almost £1200 for these 6 sessions !!
    Thats almost £100 per hour
    I feel that this amount is slightly excessive - but what options do I have, except to reject the whole idea ?
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    • w06
    • By w06 2nd Nov 17, 10:23 AM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 10:23 AM
    Not saying it's right but £100 an hour for a professional (?who would be providing the sessions) and their infrastructure expenses isn't that outrageous
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 2nd Nov 17, 10:53 AM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 10:53 AM
    Not saying it's right but £100 an hour for a professional (?who would be providing the sessions) and their infrastructure expenses isn't that outrageous
    Originally posted by w06
    I think that it is taking the pi55 - ripping off the taxpayer !!
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 2nd Nov 17, 1:40 PM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 1:40 PM
    Even more amazing - one of the companies tells me that driving 3 1/2 hours each way is too far for the money offered and has put itself out of contention !!
    • BorisThomson
    • By BorisThomson 2nd Nov 17, 2:06 PM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 2:06 PM
    Given that these skills can be largely self taught, and given the massive cuts in other areas of ATW, I would refuse this funding.
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 2nd Nov 17, 2:18 PM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 2:18 PM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 2:18 PM
    Given that these skills can be largely self taught, and given the massive cuts in other areas of ATW, I would refuse this funding.
    Originally posted by BorisThomson
    Self taught for/by whom ?
    • w06
    • By w06 2nd Nov 17, 2:35 PM
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    Even more amazing - one of the companies tells me that driving 3 1/2 hours each way is too far for the money offered and has put itself out of contention !!
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    If that £200 a session includes travel I'm not surprised. Even at 40mph that would equate to a travel expenses claim of £126 for each two hour session and make 2 hours work into 9 hours work and so they'd be earning just over £8 an hours, ignoring any preparation time, non travel overheads and administrative staff involved.

    Agree this sort of thing lends itself well to online self teaching
    https://www.mindtools.com/memory.html
    https://www.udemy.com/courses/personal-development/memory/
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 2nd Nov 17, 2:40 PM
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    Given that these skills can be largely self taught, and given the massive cuts in other areas of ATW, I would refuse this funding.
    Originally posted by BorisThomson
    If that £200 a session includes travel I'm not surprised. Even at 40mph that would equate to a travel expenses claim of £126 for each two hour session and make 2 hours work into 9 hours work and so they'd be earning just over £8 an hours, ignoring any preparation time, non travel overheads and administrative staff involved.

    Agree this sort of thing lends itself well to online self teaching
    https://www.mindtools.com/memory.html
    https://www.udemy.com/courses/personal-development/memory/
    Originally posted by w06
    The company that I have agreed to - uses local staff - so much less driving (perhaps an hour) still way too high costs though !!
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 27th Nov 17, 3:00 PM
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    • 27th Nov 17, 3:00 PM
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    • 27th Nov 17, 3:00 PM
    DWP expect me to fork out almost £1200 to pay for the memory coping strategy training and rely on DWP reimbursing me - I DON'T THINK SO !!
    Any one had any experience of this ?
    This is almost 20 weeks net pay !
    • batg
    • By batg 29th Nov 17, 1:29 PM
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    net pay? .................................................. .............................
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 29th Nov 17, 3:01 PM
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    net pay? .................................................. .............................
    Originally posted by batg
    Correct - I only work 10 hours per week !
    but in any case - the issue has been sorted..
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