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    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 30th Oct 17, 1:51 PM
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    PS4 Pro/Xbox one X Upgrade
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    • 30th Oct 17, 1:51 PM
    PS4 Pro/Xbox one X Upgrade 30th Oct 17 at 1:51 PM
    Ok So I have original PS4 (Black) & XBOX one S (Deep Blue)... (Use 2 Portable Hard Drive's for extra storage)

    What are the pros/cons of upgrading...

    Should I buy PS4 Pro or Xbox One X

    I don't have 4k TV But thinking of getting one soon (I Have 32inch Sony Full HD TV Silver)

    PS4 runs fine but is sometimes Laggy/slow (Destiny 2)

    Should I not bother upgrading?

    Was tempted for PS4 Pro
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    • custardy
    • By custardy 8th Nov 17, 9:50 AM
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    I would use it purely as a game machine anyway. Thats what its for and increased use due to watching movies will just reduce its life. I watched alot of blurays on my old ps3 and now its struggling to read game discs. I would just get a 4k capable bluray player if i wanted to watch 4k blurays.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    M$ manage a 4K drive in their 'basic' console.
    The fact Sony dont even in their 'pro' version is ridiculous.
    love you think adding a 4K player purchase to the PS4 Pro is a sensible option.....
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 8th Nov 17, 1:32 PM
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    You really think watching Blu Rays On XB1/PS4 Will decrease disc drive life?

    why buy blu ray player if you can use XB1/PS4..

    my ps4 Still fine and watched loads of blu rays on it
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 8th Nov 17, 6:15 PM
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    M$ manage a 4K drive in their 'basic' console.
    The fact Sony dont even in their 'pro' version is ridiculous.
    love you think adding a 4K player purchase to the PS4 Pro is a sensible option.....
    Originally posted by custardy
    Better than potentially knocking a few years off the life of the console. Its just what i would do. People can take that view on board and make their own decision what is best.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 8th Nov 17, 6:24 PM
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    You really think watching Blu Rays On XB1/PS4 Will decrease disc drive life?

    why buy blu ray player if you can use XB1/PS4..

    my ps4 Still fine and watched loads of blu rays on it
    Originally posted by GTR King
    Its logical the more use it gets the more likely its lifespan will be shortened. However of course you dont want to be overly paranoid and limiting your enjoyment. I would use a seperate bluray player for watching movies. As i have said in another post its upto you to decide what you feel is best.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 9th Nov 17, 7:33 AM
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    Better than potentially knocking a few years off the life of the console. Its just what i would do. People can take that view on board and make their own decision what is best.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    Well you are using a current gen console.
    I would expect to be upgrading long before the drive is an issue.
    We have 2 xbox ones now. A new S (for 4K) allowing the 'old' One to be used upstairs.
    i fully expect to upgrade to a One X at some point depending on feature/game support.
    Why would I want to have another player?
    I haven't had a drive issue since the original xbox.
    • Chimpofdoom
    • By Chimpofdoom 9th Nov 17, 11:19 AM
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    Worth noting that given MS have just released the X, you can pretty much guarantee that Sony will be responding.. plenty of rumours circulating online that a PS5 is in development.
    To the internet.. I need to complain about something!
    • custardy
    • By custardy 9th Nov 17, 11:42 AM
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    Worth noting that given MS have just released the X, you can pretty much guarantee that Sony will be responding.. plenty of rumours circulating online that a PS5 is in development.
    Originally posted by Chimpofdoom
    Um they responded by pushing through the Pro release.
    Of course a Ps5 and Xbox whatever is in development.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 9th Nov 17, 6:17 PM
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    Well you are using a current gen console.
    I would expect to be upgrading long before the drive is an issue.
    We have 2 xbox ones now. A new S (for 4K) allowing the 'old' One to be used upstairs.
    i fully expect to upgrade to a One X at some point depending on feature/game support.
    Why would I want to have another player?
    I haven't had a drive issue since the original xbox.
    Originally posted by custardy
    I want to be able to play my old games for as long as possible. If an old console dies it means trying to find a second hand one somewhere because obviously old consoles stop being made. My old ps3 is 8 years old. The last time it was used it was fine but being sat unused for quite a while has somehow caused it to now have difficulty reading game discs. Luckily my dad got a later model more recently so i can play my old games on that.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 10th Nov 17, 11:28 AM
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    I want to be able to play my old games for as long as possible. If an old console dies it means trying to find a second hand one somewhere because obviously old consoles stop being made. My old ps3 is 8 years old. The last time it was used it was fine but being sat unused for quite a while has somehow caused it to now have difficulty reading game discs. Luckily my dad got a later model more recently so i can play my old games on that.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    I have a Saturn & N64 that still work.
    Sony used a dual laser drive that had a poor life expectancy IIRC.
    Its not a benchmark for all optical drive equipped items
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 10th Nov 17, 1:53 PM
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    Don't think there will be a PS5 In the near future
    • Space Cadet Smith
    • By Space Cadet Smith 22nd Nov 17, 6:36 AM
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    Sony are in the perfect place to see how disc based media is going. Not only do they manufacture the drives for Microsoft, they have movie studios and media production and replication.

    They know 4k Blu-ray is dead in the water, very few people want physical media, the world has gone digital. Hi have a look how abysmal 4k movie selection is. Its not going to get better.

    This is why Sony didn't include a 4k drive, they spend the money where it mattered.

    Other points..

    Don't get either if you don't have a 4k TV, both consoles need to do extra processing to downscale 4k to something your TV is capable of displaying. TVs only upscale.

    You will be hard pushed to spot and real difference between PS4 Pro and xbox1 X, don't be fooled by paper specs, use your own eyes. Get the one that has the games you want (personally I think the PlayStation games lineup totally destroys the Xbox in this regard)
    • custardy
    • By custardy 22nd Nov 17, 7:17 AM
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    Sony are in the perfect place to see how disc based media is going. Not only do they manufacture the drives for Microsoft, they have movie studios and media production and replication.

    They know 4k Blu-ray is dead in the water, very few people want physical media, the world has gone digital. Hi have a look how abysmal 4k movie selection is. Its not going to get better.

    This is why Sony didn't include a 4k drive, they spend the money where it mattered.

    Other points..

    Don't get either if you don't have a 4k TV, both consoles need to do extra processing to downscale 4k to something your TV is capable of displaying. TVs only upscale.
    Heard of super sampling?

    You will be hard pushed to spot and real difference between PS4 Pro and xbox1 X, don't be fooled by paper specs, use your own eyes. Get the one that has the games you want (personally I think the PlayStation games lineup totally destroys the Xbox in this regard)
    Originally posted by Space Cadet Smith
    where was it spent that mattered?
    • Space Cadet Smith
    • By Space Cadet Smith 22nd Nov 17, 7:39 AM
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    Supersampling is a method of upscaling. The fact remains a non 4k telly can't accept a native 4k output from either and Xbox one X or PS4 pro, so both consoles need to downscale the image to 1080p

    This is why games play slightly worse on both consoles than when they run native 4k.

    If. You planning to upgrade to a 4k TV soonish, it's worth taking the hit, if not don't bother with the pro.

    There are stunning PS4 pro deals about £299 with a couple of decent games. Expect these deals to evaporate over the next few weeks, as stock runs out.(this happens every year, by December PS4 prices start to rise again).

    There is also a MASSIVE sale on right now of PS4 digital titles with some superb games at half price.

    Gran Turismo™ Sport – £24.99
    Gran Turismo™ Sport Digital Deluxe Edition
    FIFA 18 – £35.99
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    Last edited by Space Cadet Smith; 22-11-2017 at 7:48 AM. Reason: PS4 deals added
    • custardy
    • By custardy 22nd Nov 17, 8:02 AM
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    so once again ,where was the money spent that mattered?
    Of course they need to output non 4K on a non 4K TV.
    Again what about super sampling?
    • Space Cadet Smith
    • By Space Cadet Smith 22nd Nov 17, 10:51 PM
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    The PS4 has been 20% more powerful than the Xbox one since launch, it's got a far more capable cpu and gpu and faster memory, yet retails for the a similar price. Microsoft opted for a 4k drive, Sony went for the better hardware.

    The 4k consoles, Sony went for a more mainstream approach, Microsoft went high end, and Xbox one is going to set you back and extra £150 with no real benefit and arguably less exclusives.

    Not really sure what you obsession with supersampling is, both PS4 pro and Xbox one X do it when they need to reduce a 4k picture, it's a very simple algorithm that has been around for decades.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 23rd Nov 17, 7:45 AM
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    The PS4 has been 20% more powerful than the Xbox one since launch, it's got a far more capable cpu and gpu and faster memory, yet retails for the a similar price. Microsoft opted for a 4k drive, Sony went for the better hardware.

    The 4k consoles, Sony went for a more mainstream approach, Microsoft went high end, and Xbox one is going to set you back and extra £150 with no real benefit and arguably less exclusives.

    Not really sure what you obsession with supersampling is, both PS4 pro and Xbox one X do it when they need to reduce a 4k picture, it's a very simple algorithm that has been around for decades.
    Originally posted by Space Cadet Smith
    Still not there yet. Try again.
    we are talking Pro. So what was it they spent the money on that mattered?
    Plenty of people are reporting seeing the difference on a 1080p screen. you seem very keen to dismiss this.
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 3rd Dec 17, 8:12 PM
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    I am still tempted to get a PS4 pro white.

    My Standard PS4 still runs fine & is 4 years old...

    My TV is 4 years old still runs fine....

    I know that the pro will last for years and new TV if I get one...

    Just want some good deals that’s all
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