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    • si_dean
    • By si_dean 18th Oct 17, 10:13 PM
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    Bw legal letter ..... LJLA
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    • 18th Oct 17, 10:13 PM
    Bw legal letter ..... LJLA 18th Oct 17 at 10:13 PM
    Hi guys,

    I've editted this post a little from my original one,
    As i didnt mention that this case was as a result of stopping (bery briefly)
    At Liverpool JOhn Lennon Airport!

    To set the scene.....
    Car was stopped (for about 10 secs) in my car at Liverpool airport back in April of this year to pick g.f up. 3 letters from VCS (vehicle control services) were sent out (but to my previous 'parents house address" as i have moved house. After ignoring the 3 x letters in question from the VCS, they say its now been passed to BW Legal, and its been sent to my current address this time!

    Now we are up to date, this is the stage we are at now.

    As i ignored the 3 previous letters i thought that would be the lot, but now they have gotten my actual address from somewere (i don't know were and isn't this surely a breach of any consumer protection rules??).
    With this in mind, technically speaking as this letter from
    BW Legal is the first from them, i could argue this is the first corrispodancr ive had alltogether about the fine full stop? Would this work or would they twist this somehow?

    I was initially thinking of ignoring this first letter from BW LEGAL, but looking at lots of threads about this & other similar scenarios, the advice is to NOT IGNORE, but with those, the circumstances can differ!

    To summarise, The info on the BW Legal letter states the date on contravention is 02-04-17 and the balance is £100 pcn plus vehicle control services of £60 = total current balance of £160!

    With the above info in mind, as this is the first lot of literature come to my current address, were do i stand with this.

    To confirm, this is my first BW Legal letter "threatening"..... not saying its going to happen, but "threatining" me saying i "may" be liable for court fee's , further solicitors fees and CCJ's bla bla bla! The attached letter accompanying the BW legal letter is one from VCS, just confirming that as I have not made any arrangements to pay the previous amount(s) from them, this has been passed to BE LEGAL ..... and suprise suprise, my address now stated in the corner of their letter is my updated address were i love currently..... probably because BW Legal have now told threm of this.....
    Or it wouldnt suprise me if BW Legal have printed both letters off themselves and just dpcked the accompanying letter yo show VCS's watermark and updated my current address in there?

    If i have a point to prove here (in ref to them sending previous corrispondance to my old parents house address) what do i need to do or say...... or what letter template should i use ..... or do i jist simply ignore as this was for simply stopping very briefly at liverpool airport to pick my g.f up??

    If i do ignore which has been suggested by another member on this forum (thanks again for all your help by the way!) will i get more letters and eventually they will fade ?
    I just want to be certain nothing in the form of a nasty CCJ would appear on my credit file etc?

    I have a feeling it wont but some reassurance from the pro's out there would be great
    Last edited by si_dean; 19-10-2017 at 3:12 PM.
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    • si_dean
    • By si_dean 12th Jan 18, 6:49 AM
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    Hi guys,

    Im going to type of my final draft in work this afternoon.

    Before i do though, given the majority of my letter this time is stating how text on the signs are not suitable for the speed limit approaching them etc...... well within the letter from
    BW Legal on the lastet one they’ve sent me with picture evidence etc, within their closing statement they have put:

    “Signage on the approach roads is reflective & postioned to face the oncoming motorists & has been approved by senior management at rhe IPC. Text size is relative to the average approach speed of an approaching vehcicle on those roads.

    Its our clients position that is the lawful occupier of the site and enforces and manages the site terms in a reasonable manner. This is clearly displayed on the signage located on site. “

    Now is there anything i can comment / go back to them on (in ref to that bit above) or will this work in my favour anyway as part of my letter ive said the signs are not appropriate for the speed limit of the roads in that area etc. Just thought i would double check before printing it all off.

    As always, your feedback is greatfully appreciated :0)
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 12th Jan 18, 8:32 AM
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    You can state that the IPC are not qualified to override the DfT requirements on road signs menat to be read by a moving vehicle. If they disagree with this, then I suggest they take it up with the DfT directly.
    • si_dean
    • By si_dean 12th Jan 18, 10:18 AM
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    Thanks for that Nosferatu :0)
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 12th Jan 18, 10:49 AM
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    And to add

    "been approved by senior management at the IPC"

    If this was the case then they need to provide an onsite
    report by these senior managers, if it exists ?

    After the joke of BWLegal claiming they would rely
    on Elliot v Loake and the courts knocking them
    off their perch, one must wonder if this will be their
    latest wheeze

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