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    • m0bov
    • By m0bov 11th Oct 17, 11:30 AM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 11:30 AM
    Energy strategy 11th Oct 17 at 11:30 AM
    Hi all, I need some help with trying to reduce my leecy bills on EDF.

    We live in a 3 bed, three story townhouse, end of terraced. Its late 60s build, has underfloor heating on the ground and 1st floor and I have fitted top of the range Dimplex smart heaters on the top floor. We have an immersion heater, on a timer.

    We have a twin meter setup, one meter is “full time”, on Blue April 2018 tarriff. The other meter is off peak standard rate (11.30pm to 7.30am then 2.30pm to 5.30pm).

    Currently, the underfloor and the hotwater, plus one Dimplex is on the off peak only, everything else is on the full time meter. I have purchased a couple of digital timers for when we need to put the underfloor on a timer as there is no way of turning it off, other than turning the stat down, turning it off on the CU or waiting for the off peak to click off. I have yet to book the sparky to fit them.

    I asked about going to a single meter, I was told it would be £70 and I need to pay for a sparky to connect the heater to the full time meter before hand.

    I asked for a smart meter, they said this would be wired in and everything would be connected to it (no need for my sparky). However I have been waiting since April for this.

    I was offered an E7 meter but doubt they would reconnect the heater to it when they remove the off peak meter.

    My tarrif details are:
    Full time meter Blue+Price Protection Apr18v2 SC 9p/day 14p/kwh (last usage 339KW)

    Off peak meter Standard (Variable) - Off Peak SC 18p/day 11p/kwh (last usage 263KW)

    My current DD is £110

    Any ideas on how to reduce my bill? Go E7? Go for single meter? Or wait for smart meter?!


    James
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    • matelodave
    • By matelodave 11th Oct 17, 12:15 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 12:15 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 12:15 PM
    You have to do a few sums to try and work out what will work best for you.

    I dont know for what period your last usage period was but I suspect that it's only a month or two, perhaps a quarter. It wont have included much in the way of heating.

    Ideally you need to be looking at a whole 12 months worth of consumption (in kwh) at each rate to see how a single rate or E7 tarrif would cost.

    The majority of your energy (some 65-70%) gets used between October and March so your off peak consumption will increase rapidly over the next 5-6 months. Basing you calcs on the summer period won't be representative of your split between peak and off peak.

    Your cost based on the consumption should have been about £76 plus 27p a day, so add the number of days that the bill covered to your costs. If your tariff runs out in April 2018 you should be well in credit ready for winter by now.

    If you assume that £110 per month for a year works out at £1320. You will have paid about six months worth = £660 so you've still got £660 to pay to next April.

    If the DD was accurate then you'll have used about 35% of your annual energy since last April then your cost so far would be around £460 leaving you £200 in credit ready for winter

    You'll use about £860 worth between now and April, so check your previous bills amd make sure that your DD is covering your costs and get it adjusted if it isn't.

    You should look at an E7 tariff to see how much it would cost but remember you only get the lower off peak rate between midnight and 0700 so you may not have enough heat in your u/f for the evenings.

    You'd therefore be paying peak rates if you felt the need to switch it on during the afternoon or evening or to use suplementary heating.

    You could perhaps do washing, drying and dishwashing overnight to maximise your use of off peak leccy and I guess you'll only have one standing charge if you've only got one meter.
    Last edited by matelodave; 11-10-2017 at 12:20 PM.
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    • m0bov
    • By m0bov 11th Oct 17, 3:17 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 3:17 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 3:17 PM
    Thanks for the reply. We have only been with EDF for a few months, we only have £50 in credit and only started paying £110 last month, before that it was £75! Will see how it goes.

    At my old flat it was E7 and I got rid as soon as I moved in and used convestor heaters, it was a small 1 bed flat.

    Thanks again.
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