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    • Berko_lad
    • By Berko_lad 9th Oct 17, 11:09 AM
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    UKPM - County Court Business Centre letter
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    • 9th Oct 17, 11:09 AM
    UKPM - County Court Business Centre letter 9th Oct 17 at 11:09 AM
    My wife has received a claim form from Gladstones via the CCBC in Northants claiming £247.59 for a supposed parking offence in September last year.

    This is the first we have heard of this matter which states that the car (which was not being driven by my wife) was illegally parked on land in Watford. Where it was actually parked was in a visitor bay at a block of apartments.

    Obviously I want to contest this and have acknowledged receipt online to buy myself a bit of time but how best to go about it? I have no evidence nor proof to support my case but assume that they have photographic evidence to support any supposed offence.

    Should I initially contact them and ask for proof? Or should I simply claim that whilst the keeper, the car was not being driven by my wife and we have no way of identifying who was actually responsible (and it wasn't me).
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    • Berko_lad
    • By Berko_lad 10th Oct 17, 3:48 PM
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    Am on it. Will do and thanks.
    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 13th Oct 17, 4:56 PM
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    So with a bit of investigation it appears the landowner for the site you refer to above is "Proxima GR Properties Ltd".

    Further investigation reveals this is one of a number of limited companies with the same directors and registered office. Each company appears to hold real estate (mostly blocks of flats or commercial building) assets.

    All these companies also share the same registered address with another limited company called Estates & Management. As per "DanielSans" thread Estates and Management are the company who represent the landowner to the lessees (e.g. the person whom your friend rented their property from) collecting ground rent and so on.

    This is one avenue for you to pursue now - contacting the freeholder or the company that represents them and explaining you were a genuine visitor to a tenant in a flat (you will need the tenancy agreement and a letter from the tenant for proof) and without any further notice you have suddenly received a court claim for £247.59 for doing nothing wrong at all (and certainly nothing you were not allowed to do as a visitor of a tenant). You might like to ask them if they have even authorised a third party to take legal action on their behalf or even if they have a contract with the PPC (probably more likely via a Management Agent)? If you can get the landlord to help, even better.

    Let us know what you have found out.
    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 24th Oct 17, 10:39 PM
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    @berko_lad ... if you are still on the forum, get in touch. I now have contact details (email) and a phone number for you to contact the freeholder about this. Can't post them here as the moderators don't like us posting peoples email addresses so once you make contact I will get them to you via a mutually acceptable method. This is an avenue for you to get this stopped potentially

    On another note, how is your defence going? You don't have an indefinite amount of time to craft it.
    • Berko_lad
    • By Berko_lad 28th Nov 17, 3:05 PM
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    An update on our case.

    Despite offering to settle the original parking fee on account of havng no knowledge of this matter and having never been sent any 'proof' of the offence until we requested it, Gladstones are now insisting on going the court route and have sent us a copy of their N180 Directions Questionnaire via email. I'm assuming from reading the various threads that we will be receiving our copy to respond any day now.

    The text of their email is as follows:

    ]UK Car Park Management Limited

    We act for the Claimant and have notified the Court of our Client’s intention to proceed with the claim.

    Please find attached a copy of our Client’s completed Directions Questionnaire, which will be filed with the court upon their request. You will note we intend to request a special direction that the case be dealt with on the papers and without the need for an oral hearing

    This request is sought simply because the matter is in our Client’s opinion relatively straightforward and the costs incurred by both parties for attending an oral hearing would be disproportionate.

    You will note our Client has elected not to mediate. Its decision is not meant to be in any way obstructive and is based purely on experience, as mediation has rarely proven beneficial in these types of cases. Notwithstanding this, our Client would be happy to listen to any genuine payment proposals that you wish to put forward.

    Yours sincerely

    Litigation Assistant

    My intention is to go to court with this matter however, given that they have included a 'payment proposal' offer in this email, is it worth repeating my offer to pay the original fee?
    Last edited by Berko_lad; 28-11-2017 at 3:46 PM. Reason: name removal
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 28th Nov 17, 3:28 PM
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    Please delete the defendents name above or mark
    it XXX

    This is now a typical Gladstones wheeze, they don't want to
    go to court because they will probably get whooped
    in court yet again.

    They are trying to give you the impression that they
    will win ...... Gladstones are very bad solicitors and
    UKCPM know that already, they have been subjected
    to the incompetence of Gladstones

    SAY NO TO PAPERS .... You want it heard in front
    of a judge.

    Two things will happen, Gladstones will discontinue
    or they will brace themselves for another whooping in court
    Last edited by beamerguy; 28-11-2017 at 3:36 PM.

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