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    • Morata_
    • By Morata_ 9th Oct 17, 9:30 AM
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    Awkward moment...
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    • 9th Oct 17, 9:30 AM
    Awkward moment... 9th Oct 17 at 9:30 AM
    Went to measure up on our property having agreed a price etc. Before now, id been offered tea or coffee when I came to view, this time...

    Abrupt, rude, moaned about price we had got the property for...

    ...I swiftly reminded her, no one forced you to accept and I've not done it as a favour...then left!!

    Haha. Bizarre and caught me slightly off guard! I also have a satisfied feeling I've negotiated well, but is this common practice??
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    • maisie cat
    • By maisie cat 9th Oct 17, 9:36 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 9:36 AM
    Have you exchanged now? perhaps the seller was in sales mode and now they aren't, don't fall out though, you may find that a nut on the water supply under the bath has been slightly loosened to create a slow leak..
    ..
    • Morata_
    • By Morata_ 9th Oct 17, 9:38 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 9:38 AM
    I have no issue, if they didn't like the offer they only had to politely refuse.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 9th Oct 17, 9:51 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 9:51 AM
    I always find people start off nice but usually something pees them off along the way. It's why I hate taking phone numbers/contact details as you'll probably get moaned at about something once they've moved in, or they start hassling you during the process.


    My buyers don't seem to be as nice as I first thought... I was looking forward to leaving them a bottle of something, notes and maybe a gift, but I'm having second thoughts now. Hmm.
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    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 9th Oct 17, 10:24 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 10:24 AM
    Maybe, having accepted your offer, they've done their sums and started look at places to buy...

    ... and they're disappointed with the type of places they can afford.


    If you definitely want to buy their place, the standard advice is to be nice, friendly, sympathetic etc towards them - in spite of their rudeness.

    Because, psychologically, it will be more difficult for the vendor to let you down if you're being nice to them, than if you're being nasty back at them.
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 9th Oct 17, 11:11 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 11:11 AM
    .....
    I swiftly reminded her, no one forced you to accept and I've not done it as a favour...then left!!
    ALWAYS keep the moral high ground, never reply to bitterness with anything other than sweetness, and never, ever take offence during a house sale/purchase.

    It's the most stressful time of most people's lives, and they don't always act well. There's nothing whatsoever to be gained by petty victories in the sniping line, and so much to be lost.

    Have you exchanged? You are not clear you have and, if you haven't, they are free to dump you, and try to sell elsewhere.

    If you have exchanged.... well, I guess when you finally move in, the bins will be full, the house not so clean, and the lawn will be long. Offering sympathy and pleasantries is likely to be so much rewarding.
    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 9th Oct 17, 11:20 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 11:20 AM
    The key is not to take it personally.

    No doubt there is something in the house moving process that has caused this person stress. When people get stressed they can sometimes be rude.

    For example perhaps they can't quite afford the house they want or have been messed around by their seller. Or perhaps she didn't want to accept your offer but was talked into it by a family member or the estate agent? It is unlikely to be personal.

    It is always best to be polite in response. There is nothing to be achieved by being rude or stroppy back to them.
    Last edited by steampowered; 09-10-2017 at 11:23 AM.
    • societys child
    • By societys child 9th Oct 17, 11:28 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 11:28 AM
    ...I swiftly reminded her, no one forced you to accept and I've not done it as a favour...then left!!
    . . . I also have a satisfied feeling I've negotiated well <snip>
    Whatever turns you on, I suppose . .

    • counting_stars
    • By counting_stars 9th Oct 17, 11:49 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 11:49 AM
    Wouldn't be surprised if they tuck a bit of fish behind the radiator. I would advocate to retaining your dignity and being polite.
    • Tiners
    • By Tiners 9th Oct 17, 1:15 PM
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    Vendors can be funny folks... I remember back in the late 80's my parents found their dream house, although it was very dated and a not very competitively priced they still offered full asking price straight off the bat as they were so keen on it.

    With the offer accepted they got the ball rolling with searches and surveys etc but everything seemed to go very quiet and no progress appeared to be getting made and they couldn't get any answers out of the EA or solicitors as to the reason for the delay.

    My dad then bumped into the vendors in the garden centre and very politely asked them if they knew why nothing seemed to be progressing... the vendor told him ''we've decided not to sell and even if were we wouldn't sell to you if you were the last people on earth'' !!!
    • ringo_24601
    • By ringo_24601 9th Oct 17, 1:17 PM
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    Have you exchanged now? perhaps the seller was in sales mode and now they aren't, don't fall out though, you may find that a nut on the water supply under the bath has been slightly loosened to create a slow leak..
    ..
    Originally posted by maisie cat
    Funny that.. we moved into our house and the first time we used the shower, it leaked on the (freshly plastered) kitchen ceiling below.

    They also removed all the bathroom fittings after saying they'd leave them.. and left a bunch of crap in the loft and garden.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 9th Oct 17, 1:38 PM
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    Went to measure up on our property having agreed a price etc. Before now, id been offered tea or coffee when I came to view, this time...

    Abrupt, rude, moaned about price we had got the property for...
    Originally posted by Morata_
    I've rather read first paragraph as interpreted = you've had more than 2 viewings before you went to measure up and they felt they'd allocated all the time/"energy" they'd bargained on to your viewings and this was time/"energy" they didn't have available spare.

    Abrupt could mean that they had, reluctantly, made some extra time available over and above standard number of viewings - but had an appointment they had to go onto just after having made some time available again for viewing purposes. You don't indicate whether you turned up bang on time or no for this viewing......

    People do have A Life (even if they are in the process of house-selling).

    This happens - I'm just having to be a bit "abrupt" in two different directions right now - because other people are expecting more time/"energy" from me for things than are usual/I've bargained on and there isnt the time/"energy" to spare for them wanting this. I've worked out the demands are down to their assumptions in one case/mistakes in another case - hence abrupt...

    I think you may have a share of responsibility for this - from having made assumptions without checking first with them.
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    • Surrey_EA
    • By Surrey_EA 9th Oct 17, 1:50 PM
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    This reinforces my long-held belief that it is best for buyers and sellers to be kept as far apart from one another as possible, and certainly should never be allowed to meet!

    I have no doubt that there are examples where seller has become best friends with buyer, and the transaction went through without a hitch, but my experience suggests this is rare.
    • chappers
    • By chappers 9th Oct 17, 2:12 PM
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    This reinforces my long-held belief that it is best for buyers and sellers to be kept as far apart from one another as possible, and certainly should never be allowed to meet!

    I have no doubt that there are examples where seller has become best friends with buyer, and the transaction went through without a hitch, but my experience suggests this is rare.
    Originally posted by Surrey_EA
    I would generally agree. solicitors and EAs are the best intermediaries as they keep the transactions on a professional level and keep the emotion out of it.
    We are in the process of buying a property at the moment which we really had to fight to get our offer accepted on. Part of that involved the vendor wanting to actually speak with us, and whilst I'm sure without those conversations we wouldn't have had our offer accepted, it has been quite stressful, they are panicky stressful sellers and been pushing all the time.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 9th Oct 17, 2:52 PM
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    This reinforces my long-held belief that it is best for buyers and sellers to be kept as far apart from one another as possible, and certainly should never be allowed to meet!

    I have no doubt that there are examples where seller has become best friends with buyer, and the transaction went through without a hitch, but my experience suggests this is rare.
    Originally posted by Surrey_EA
    Well - there have been instances where seller and buyer got on so well together with each other that they landed up married to each other

    But - I would agree personally - and honestly "didnt want to know" re any contact with the buyer of my last house. I just left it all up to the EA - after all I was having to pay them good money for the service.
    #MeToo

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    • Crashy Time
    • By Crashy Time 10th Oct 17, 1:11 PM
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    Went to measure up on our property having agreed a price etc. Before now, id been offered tea or coffee when I came to view, this time...

    Abrupt, rude, moaned about price we had got the property for...

    ...I swiftly reminded her, no one forced you to accept and I've not done it as a favour...then left!!

    Haha. Bizarre and caught me slightly off guard! I also have a satisfied feeling I've negotiated well, but is this common practice??
    Originally posted by Morata_

    Too funny.......
    • pimento
    • By pimento 10th Oct 17, 1:24 PM
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    How many times have you been round there to view?
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 10th Oct 17, 1:33 PM
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    This is another reason not to keep having repeat viewings after you've decided you want to buy the place.

    Measuring up can be done on completion!
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 10th Oct 17, 1:34 PM
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    Maybe caught them on a bad day.
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 10th Oct 17, 1:35 PM
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    Vendors can be funny folks... I remember back in the late 80's my parents found their dream house, although it was very dated and a not very competitively priced they still offered full asking price straight off the bat as they were so keen on it.

    With the offer accepted they got the ball rolling with searches and surveys etc but everything seemed to go very quiet and no progress appeared to be getting made and they couldn't get any answers out of the EA or solicitors as to the reason for the delay.

    My dad then bumped into the vendors in the garden centre and very politely asked them if they knew why nothing seemed to be progressing... the vendor told him ''we've decided not to sell and even if were we wouldn't sell to you if you were the last people on earth'' !!!
    Originally posted by Tiners

    I'm going to hazard a guess that you don't know the full story on that one.
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