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    • SKarTaZ
    • By SKarTaZ 8th Oct 17, 11:09 PM
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    Parking Eye - 4 to 5 Months Late
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    • 8th Oct 17, 11:09 PM
    Parking Eye - 4 to 5 Months Late 8th Oct 17 at 11:09 PM
    Hi guys,

    I just had 4 Parking Eye tickets come through all at the same time for parking dates back in May and June this year (all same car park). Are they late enough on this for me to appeal etc?

    Cheers in advance
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 8th Oct 17, 11:16 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 11:16 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 11:16 PM
    same answer as in this similar thread

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5724555

    they must be trawling old tickets
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • SKarTaZ
    • By SKarTaZ 17th Oct 17, 12:14 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 12:14 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 12:14 PM
    UPDATED - 8 tickets now received over 4 months late. I'm assuming appeal with the Blue text in Newbies thread?
    • SKarTaZ
    • By SKarTaZ 17th Oct 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 12:17 PM
    And appeal each one individually?
    Last edited by SKarTaZ; 17-10-2017 at 12:21 PM. Reason: Typo
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th Oct 17, 1:08 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 1:08 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 1:08 PM
    And appeal each one individually?
    Originally posted by SKarTaZ
    Definitely treat each one individually - a bit inconvenient, but essential that you do it this way.

    Use exactly the same appeal from the sticky, no need to alter in any way, other than to make sure the individual PCN number is entered on each respective appeal.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • SKarTaZ
    • By SKarTaZ 17th Oct 17, 3:59 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 3:59 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 3:59 PM
    Thanks Umkommas. I'm just not entirely clear which template to use, since the tickets are for dates from over 4 months ago?

    Should I go with #1:
    Dear Sirs

    Re: PCN No. ....................

    I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.

    I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.

    Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.

    I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.

    Yours faithfully,


    THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE KEEPER GOES HERE. THE DRIVER IS NOT IDENTIFIED.

    NO NEED TO USE YOUR REAL SIGNATURE - BUT DON'T POST UNLESS YOU HAVE TO - ALWAYS USE THE ONLINE APPEAL PAGE BECAUSE THE APPEAL CANNOT GET LOST AND YOU CAN KEEP A SCREEN PRINT. USE ANY EMAIL APPEAL OPTION IF FIRMS OFFER IT.


    Or should I go with #2:

    Re: PCN No. ....................

    I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.

    I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis.Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers. Furthermore, as the PCN did not arrive within the stipulate period of 14 days, as specified within the POFA 2012, you have failed to meet the strict deadlines to transfer liability to the keeper.

    Therefore, there will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.

    Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.

    I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.

    Yours faithfully,
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 17th Oct 17, 4:05 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 4:05 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 4:05 PM
    UPDATED - 8 tickets now received over 4 months late. I'm assuming appeal with the Blue text in Newbies thread?
    Originally posted by SKarTaZ
    No need to assume that.

    That is exactly what you were advised to do in post #2.
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 17th Oct 17, 4:12 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 4:12 PM
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    • 17th Oct 17, 4:12 PM
    use 2 , because they failed the POFA2012 timescales but change

    Should you obtain

    to


    Should you have obtained

    appeal each one separately
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
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