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    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 9:11 PM
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    ESA No points ~ Won PIP Appeal
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:11 PM
    ESA No points ~ Won PIP Appeal 7th Oct 17 at 9:11 PM
    I wonder if anyone can advise me on my circumstances please?

    After 2yrs of Esa (IR) at Assessment Rate I finally had a WCA but didn't score any points therefore no income for myself for 2 months.

    In the same month I won my PIP Tribunal which was held and awarded PIP Standard Rate for care and mobility for 2 years which ends soon but I still haven't heard anything from DWP.

    Is it true or does anyone know if any/all the other entitlements I would have received during the two years I have now lost? I was told I would have been eligible fir a buspass.🙁

    Thank you for your help.
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    • 45002
    • By 45002 7th Oct 17, 9:33 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:33 PM
    I wonder if anyone can advise me on my circumstances please?

    After 2yrs of Esa (IR) at Assessment Rate I finally had a WCA but didn't score any points therefore no income for myself for 2 months.

    In the same month I won my PIP Tribunal which was held and awarded PIP Standard Rate for care and mobility for 2 years which ends soon but I still haven't heard anything from DWP.

    Is it true or does anyone know if any/all the other entitlements I would have received during the two years I have now lost? I was told I would have been eligible fir a buspass.🙁

    Thank you for your help.
    by JJWSJS8700
    Appealing ESA https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/employment-and-support-allowance/while-youre-getting-esa/challenging-an-esa-decision/


    Bus pass https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-disabled-bus-pass
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    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 9:43 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:43 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:43 PM
    Thank you for replying to my dilemna.

    I don't think I will Appeal the Esa after over 2 years of stress and now I have been awarded PIP, I thought I can live on that as it is 4 pounds more than Esa 73.10 which I have done for past 2 years.

    I am, throgh PIP eligible fir a free bus pass, but has it has just been awarded and nit yet received any proof, I will not be allowed, is that correct.

    Thank you for giving me your very welconed advice.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:00 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:00 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:00 PM
    I wonder if anyone can advise me on my circumstances please?

    After 2yrs of Esa (IR) at Assessment Rate I finally had a WCA but didn't score any points therefore no income for myself for 2 months.

    In the same month I won my PIP Tribunal which was held and awarded PIP Standard Rate for care and mobility for 2 years which ends soon but I still haven't heard anything from DWP.

    Is it true or does anyone know if any/all the other entitlements I would have received during the two years I have now lost? I was told I would have been eligible fir a buspass.🙁

    Thank you for your help.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    ESA and PIP are 2 completely different benefits. Having had an award for PIP makes no difference to an ESA claim. People claim PIP and work.

    Your post is a little confusing. You say you were awarded PIP by a Tribunal for 2 years but it ends soon and you haven't heard anything? When did you win your Tribunal and what date is it untill? Having an award of PIP won't qualify you for a bus pass. You'll need to take a look at your local Councils criteria on their website.
    • 45002
    • By 45002 7th Oct 17, 10:06 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:06 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:06 PM
    Thank you for replying to my dilemna.

    I don't think I will Appeal the Esa after over 2 years of stress and now I have been awarded PIP, I thought I can live on that as it is 4 pounds more than Esa 73.10 which I have done for past 2 years.

    I am, throgh PIP eligible fir a free bus pass, but has it has just been awarded and nit yet received any proof, I will not be allowed, is that correct.

    Thank you for giving me your very welconed advice.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    Yes, they would need to see proof of benefits, the award letter from the DWP saying you get High rate mobility DLA or High rate mobility PIP.

    I'm going through the renewal processes on my disabled free bus pass and they always ask for copy of award letter from dwp "dated with in 12 months" and proof of address sending up-to-date copies of utilities bills.

    Good luck
    Last edited by 45002; 07-10-2017 at 10:13 PM.
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    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 10:09 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:09 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:09 PM
    Thank you for replying.

    I lost ESA assessment rate almost 2 mths sgo.

    I was awarded PIP just a few weeks ago backdated for almost 2 years.

    This council said it would entitle me fir a bus pass but the Claim took that long it is almost running out.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:11 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:11 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:11 PM
    Yes, they would need to see proof of benefits, the award letter from the DWP.

    I'm going through the renewal processes on my disabled free bus pass and they always ask for copy of award letter from dwp "dated with in 12 months" and proof of address sending up-to-date copies of utilities bills.

    Good luck
    Originally posted by 45002
    Not always true. Not every standard Mobility award will get a person a free disabled bus pass. The OP would need to check the criteria of their local council. Some councils do not give the disabled bus pass for this reason. I get Enhanced Mobility PIP for the moving around part and i do not qualify for this bus pass with my local council.
    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 10:13 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:13 PM
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    Thank you 45002.

    As my PIP award will be almost ended when I eventually receive the award letter, does that mean I will only get a pass, if I do get one, for the remaining few weeks of the award?

    Thank you for helping.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:20 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:20 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:20 PM
    Thank you 45002.

    As my PIP award will be almost ended when I eventually receive the award letter, does that mean I will only get a pass, if I do get one, for the remaining few weeks of the award?

    Thank you for helping.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    If you qualify for the disabled bus pass then it would end the same time your PIP award ends.
    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 10:30 PM
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    Thank you Poppy for replying.

    That is what I wanted to know, so it looks like a pass for a few weeks anyway.😊

    Is that the same for the disibilty premiums also, they will not be backdated for the whole 2 years of the award?

    Other sites must be just misleading me, that's why I thought I woukd check here.

    Thank you once again.
    • 45002
    • By 45002 7th Oct 17, 10:36 PM
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    Concessionary Bus Travel
    Thank you 45002.

    As my PIP award will be almost ended when I eventually receive the award letter, does that mean I will only get a pass, if I do get one, for the remaining few weeks of the award?

    Thank you for helping.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    Plenty of guidance here http://www.bususers.org/publications/#general

    look for "Concessionary Bus Travel 1 Oct, 2013" if your in England...


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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:39 PM
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    Thank you Poppy for replying.

    That is what I wanted to know, so it looks like a pass for a few weeks anyway.😊

    Is that the same for the disibilty premiums also, they will not be backdated for the whole 2 years of the award?

    Other sites must be just misleading me, that's why I thought I woukd check here.

    Thank you once again.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    By the time your award notice is sent out then it may not even be worth claiming th bus pass. It'll take a few weeks to claim this. When does your PIP award end? You'll also need to ring PIP to ask them to send you another PIP form so you can claim again, if you wish to do so.

    Enhanced Disability Premium isn't payable to you because you need Enhanced daily living PIP unless you're in the Support Group. Which doesn't apply to you.

    Severe Disability Premium is paid if you live alone and no one claims Carers Allowance for you. If you live alone then it should be backdated from the time you qualified.
    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 10:41 PM
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    Brilliant 45002��.

    Thank you
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:43 PM
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    Plenty of guidance here http://www.bususers.org/publications/#general

    look for "Concessionary Bus Travel 1 Oct, 2013" if your in England...


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    Originally posted by 45002
    This is only for those who are over the age of 60. No use to the OP if they're under this age.
    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 10:47 PM
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    Thank you Poppy for replying.

    I do live on my own have always.

    Do you know if I will be allowed the top up on the assessment rate of ESA, for being awarded PIP during that time or for being on Esa for 1 year beforehand.

    Thank you for your help.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Oct 17, 10:53 PM
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    Thank you Poppy for replying.

    I do live on my own have always.

    Do you know if I will be allowed the top up on the assessment rate of ESA, for being awarded PIP during that time or for being on Esa for 1 year beforehand.

    Thank you for your help.
    Originally posted by JJWSJS8700
    You'll be backdated the Severe Disability Premium only from the time you qualified. When did you first apply for ESA? and when did you first apply for PIP?
    • 45002
    • By 45002 7th Oct 17, 11:05 PM
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    Guidance for the Nitpicker and rivet counter.......
    Plenty of guidance here http://www.bususers.org/publications/#general

    look for "Concessionary Bus Travel 1 Oct, 2013" if your in England...


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    Originally posted by 45002

    This is only for those who are over the age of 60. No use to the OP if they're under this age.
    by poppy12345

    Did you even bother to read the pdf file

    http://www.bususers.org/pages/download/czo0NzoiL2Fzc2V0cy9Db25jZXNzaW9uYXJ5X0J1c19UcmF2ZW xfaW5fRW5nbGFuZC5wZGYiOw__

    Eligible disabled people in England



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    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 7th Oct 17, 11:52 PM
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    I am reading it now 45,.

    Thank you very much for your help.😊
    • JJWSJS8700
    • By JJWSJS8700 8th Oct 17, 12:02 AM
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    If you can advise me Poppy that would be very helpful, but if you dont does anyone else know the rules please regarding Disability Premiums when claiming ESA assessment rate and now being awarded PIP backdated for 2 years?

    Thank you

    I applied for ESA in January 2015.

    I applied for PIP in January 2016.

    Thank you for replying to me.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 8th Oct 17, 6:21 AM
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    If eligible the severe disability maybe backdated to January 2016 (the start of your PIP award) Although i'm unsure because you were found fit for work. Has your ESA claim closed? if so what benefit are you claiming now? Are you Appealing that decision?
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