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    • sillygoose
    • By sillygoose 6th Oct 17, 10:12 PM
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    Looking ahead.. Ryanair next summer
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    • 6th Oct 17, 10:12 PM
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    Looking ahead.. Ryanair next summer 6th Oct 17 at 10:12 PM
    I have never had much hankering to fly Ryanair but I am seeing some pretty good fares next summer for places I want to go.

    But their recent screw ups make me nervous, what if it goes wrong next summer and they end up with not enough pilots for the flights they sold and start cancelling? - your left with accommodation going to waste and no way to get there!

    Now I know this could be the case with any airline, one year Monarch cancelled a route several months after I thought I was safely booked to travel on it.

    But obviously Ryanair have a pretty ropey track record now, but it would be suicidal for them to mess up a summer season as well.

    For me its weighing up the perceived 'risk' versus paying about 20% more for a more regular service like Thomas Cook.

    I am not so worried about financial loss, that's would be protected by the credit card, more the risk of being let down and sat at home watching the rain run down the window!

    Anyone have any thoughts?
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    • bagand96
    • By bagand96 6th Oct 17, 10:50 PM
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    Book a hotel that is cancelable? That at least mitigates the financial risk.
    • leylandsunaddict
    • By leylandsunaddict 6th Oct 17, 11:17 PM
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    • 6th Oct 17, 11:17 PM
    There wouldn't be a financial loss on your flight because you'd be refunded and get compensation if applicable. If you're looking for your insurance to cover unused accommodation I hope your policy includes consequential loss cover.
    • sillygoose
    • By sillygoose 6th Oct 17, 11:55 PM
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    • 6th Oct 17, 11:55 PM
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    • 6th Oct 17, 11:55 PM
    I guess really its not money so much as disappointment. My work has a lot of limitations on taking leave and requires advance planning, I have school kids so that defines the timing too.

    If say in July they started cancelling flights again the chances of finding alternatives in August would be slim or very pricey. With no chance to change dates basically I would be stuffed.

    Not so much loss of money as, is it worth paying extra for another airline that doesn't upset it pilots or will they sort it all out.
    • littlereddevil
    • By littlereddevil 7th Oct 17, 8:05 AM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 8:05 AM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 8:05 AM
    Well I know which I would choose!
    travelover
    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Oct 17, 9:02 AM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:02 AM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 9:02 AM
    The pilot problem is here to stay and there'll always be a higher cancellation risk with Ryanair, in your circumstances it may not be money saving to risk it.
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • bagand96
    • By bagand96 7th Oct 17, 10:24 AM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 10:24 AM
    Michael has sent a letter to all of his pilots now, telling them how great they are, how much better Ryanair want to be, and reminding them of the Monarch collapse and Norwegian’s financial situation.

    So I’m sure that’ll fix it and stop them leaving.
    • budgetflyer
    • By budgetflyer 7th Oct 17, 6:10 PM
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    The pilot problem is here to stay and there'll always be a higher cancellation risk with Ryanair, in your circumstances it may not be money saving to risk it.
    Originally posted by richardw
    I disagree. Ryanair will do what it takes to make sure this is a short term problem.
    BTW BA have just cancelled 3 summer routes.
    • IAmWales
    • By IAmWales 7th Oct 17, 6:28 PM
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    • 7th Oct 17, 6:28 PM
    The pilot problem is here to stay and there'll always be a higher cancellation risk with Ryanair, in your circumstances it may not be money saving to risk it.
    Originally posted by richardw
    Evidence?

    silly, Ryanair are still a massive airline. Given the resources available to them I have no doubt they'll have this debacle sorted by next summer.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Oct 17, 8:57 PM
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    Evidence?

    silly, Ryanair are still a massive airline. Given the resources available to them I have no doubt they'll have this debacle sorted by next summer.
    Originally posted by IAmWales
    It's quite sensible that if pilots don't want to work for an airline 1 minute more than they have to, to get the required hours before they move on, then they'll always be a high risk of cancellations.

    Pilots don't grow on trees. This is debacle is going to continue.
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 7th Oct 17, 8:58 PM
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    .... Ryanair will do what it takes to make sure this is a short term problem....
    Originally posted by budgetflyer
    What's that then?

    ....BA have just cancelled 3 summer routes.
    Originally posted by budgetflyer
    They were LHR slot sitters, nowt to do with pilot resources.
    Last edited by richardw; 07-10-2017 at 9:50 PM.
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    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 8th Oct 17, 8:44 AM
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    It's quite sensible that if pilots don't want to work for an airline 1 minute more than they have to, to get the required hours before they move on, then they'll always be a high risk of cancellations.

    Pilots don't grow on trees. This is debacle is going to continue.
    Originally posted by richardw
    Pilots might grow on trees, they are just very expensive and slow growing trees.
    • budgetflyer
    • By budgetflyer 8th Oct 17, 9:12 AM
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    What's that then?
    Originally posted by richardw
    http://corporate.ryanair.com/about-us/ryanair-pilots/

    They were LHR slot sitters, nowt to do with pilot resources.
    Originally posted by richardw
    I dont think those affected by the cancellation of Kos, Montpellier or Biarritz will care the reason
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 8th Oct 17, 10:26 AM
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    I don't care they are cheap I just don't want the extra hassle of cancellations. I don't buy cheap unreliable products because they are cheaper..........he can poke it.
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 08-10-2017 at 1:53 PM.
    • stephb34
    • By stephb34 8th Oct 17, 1:40 PM
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    Put it in the context of other products you buy ie cars, computers, washing machines, phones. Do you buy the cheapest on the market or do you pay a bit more for reliability. Cheapest isn't always the answer. How upset and cross will you be if your summer holiday is cancelled because you can't afford to buy new flights or get the availability because Ryanair have pulled them.
    You have to weigh up what would upset you the most, paying cheap and cancelled or paying a bit more but your cross you paid more because the flight doesn't get cancelled.
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 8th Oct 17, 3:18 PM
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    http://corporate.ryanair.com/about-us/ryanair-pilots/



    I dont think those affected by the cancellation of Kos, Montpellier or Biarritz will care the reason
    Originally posted by budgetflyer
    The big difference it the timescales BA have dropped these routes and have informed their customers a long way in advance, so very few will have already booked these flights and for those few there is plenty of time to find alternatives.

    RA on the other hand have dropped many people in the proverbial with little notice, giving them the option of abandoning or buying very expensive alternatives. Personally I won't touch RA with a very long bargepole.
    • lea2012
    • By lea2012 8th Oct 17, 4:13 PM
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    We've just booked with Ryanair for next July as we've used them for years with no issues. It's a chance I'm willing to take, I too am tied to certain holiday periods and if we do get a flight cancellation I would be upset but to date they've only cancelled 2% of their flights, lots of other airlines cancel flights too so it's a risk with anyone!
    Lea :confused:
    • richardw
    • By richardw 8th Oct 17, 6:33 PM
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    What's your back up plan lea2012 if they cancel your flight back to the UK?

    What will you do if they initially attempt to deny your re-routing right?
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 9th Oct 17, 8:08 AM
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    We've just booked with Ryanair for next July as we've used them for years with no issues. It's a chance I'm willing to take, I too am tied to certain holiday periods and if we do get a flight cancellation I would be upset but to date they've only cancelled 2% of their flights, lots of other airlines cancel flights too so it's a risk with anyone!
    Originally posted by lea2012
    Whats the % of RA and others then?
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 09-10-2017 at 11:59 AM.
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 9th Oct 17, 11:21 AM
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    Op, no, for a family summer holiday I would not book with Ryanair, it's just not worth the risk of having a much looked-forward to holiday fall to pieces and 9 months of wondering will they/won't they cancel our flight. No amount of £'s saved is worth that.

    For a short notice, short trip that I could take or leave, maybe, if they were the only people flying to a destination.

    For business trips where I have to be somewhere on a specific date and be able to get home again, no way Jose.
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