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    • J,M
    • By J,M 6th Oct 17, 5:15 PM
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    Unwelcome tenant.
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    • 6th Oct 17, 5:15 PM
    Unwelcome tenant. 6th Oct 17 at 5:15 PM
    Carried out all the recommended checks on our new tenant, passed with flying colours, but unbeknown to us we rented to a convicted sex offender who has done jail time. Never crossed our minds to ask if he had commited any offense, does anyone request that of potential tenants?

    I am taking an awful lot of stick from my neighbours, some of whom have children, and naturally are extremely concerned. I have asked him to vacate but so far no response.

    Can I or any authority come to that make him vacate?
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    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 6th Oct 17, 7:33 PM
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    Do you mean statutory rape? In that case, I still would want him out. He's still a sex offender.
    Originally posted by ripplyuk
    No I didn't mean that. Consensual sex with a relative is a specific offence in the 2003 act.

    Why do you assume that the other party is a minor? Something from your childhood? I think that says a lot about your thought processes that you equated it with sex with a minor.
    Last edited by unforeseen; 06-10-2017 at 7:37 PM.
    • ripplyuk
    • By ripplyuk 6th Oct 17, 7:35 PM
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    No I didn't mean that. Consensual sex with a relative is a specific offence in the 2003 act
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Him having sex with his own sister? I don't like the thought of that either tbh!
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 6th Oct 17, 7:40 PM
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    BTW he is only an alleged member of the register.
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 6th Oct 17, 7:43 PM
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    Him having sex with his own sister? I don't like the thought of that either tbh!
    Originally posted by ripplyuk
    We'll don't look too far back into your genealogy, it use to be quite common.
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 6th Oct 17, 7:45 PM
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    We'll don't look too far back into your genealogy, it use to be quite common.
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    No it didn't! Cousins maybe, not siblings!
    • ripplyuk
    • By ripplyuk 6th Oct 17, 7:47 PM
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    Why do you assume that the other party is a minor? Something from your childhood? I think that says a lot about your thought processes that you equated it with sex with a minor.
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    I'm used to hearing about 18yo guys with 17yo girls and ending up on the register. That's all. It's nothing to do with my thought processes.

    And I know it's only 'alleged' but the OP sounds pretty sure of it. The rumours alone would be enough for me to want this tenant out immediately.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 6th Oct 17, 8:02 PM
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    I must be the only one who feels differently here. It's a sex offender! I'd want him out using whatever means necessary. And I wouldn't care which particular sex offence it is. The earlier post quotes 'simple voyeurism' as if it's something harmless.

    OP, unfortunately if you've given this tenant a fixed term, I don't know of any (legal) means of removing him quickly. Since it's now local gossip, I would definitely make sure you have adequate home insurance.
    Originally posted by ripplyuk
    You're not the only one.

    As a woman - I feel differently.

    If I were a parent - I'd feel differently.

    So - no I wouldnt want that person as a neighbour either.
    #MeToo

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    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 6th Oct 17, 8:42 PM
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    No it didn't! Cousins maybe, not siblings!
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    Ever been to Norfolk?
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 6th Oct 17, 9:02 PM
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    I must be the only one who feels differently here. It's a sex offender! I'd want him out using whatever means necessary.
    Originally posted by ripplyuk
    The legal way.
    • Wanderingpomm
    • By Wanderingpomm 6th Oct 17, 9:02 PM
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    Consensual sex with your sister isn't rape unless she is under 16
    • Wanderingpomm
    • By Wanderingpomm 6th Oct 17, 9:06 PM
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    You have no legal option to evict him if he has a tenancy. And he has served his time and has been deemed to be no risk to the public. Give the poor guy a chance and stop being so paranoid
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 6th Oct 17, 10:44 PM
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    if he was a danger to children, isn't there a stipulation within their registration that they can't be within a certain distance of children? or have i watched too much tv?
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    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 7th Oct 17, 1:21 AM
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    To all, please accept the fact that he is a registered sex offender.

    I,m off for a pint.
    Originally posted by J,M


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    • tealady
    • By tealady 7th Oct 17, 6:04 AM
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    • RedFraggle
    • By RedFraggle 7th Oct 17, 6:59 AM
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    Ever been to Norfolk?
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    *high 6*

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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 7th Oct 17, 7:09 AM
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    There's nothing in the OP's history to suggest they're trolling. Maybe they're naive and didn't expect the sort of replies they received? Regardless of anything else, they're not terribly well-informed about their position as a landlord.

    Judging by what I've been told in confidence by a surprising number of ladies, there's probably quite a lot in some 'ordinary' people's history that would have had them on the sex offender's register years ago, had they been reported. Most of it goes on within families, if we include close friends in that, and very little affects minors who are not already known to the perpetrators. School aged children would also rank among common offenders. However, society has regularly re-defined 'offences' in this context.

    All that won't influence the attitude of the neighbours, of course.

    Without knowing more about the tenancy, there's not much more to be said, except the point that's already been made: sex offenders have to live somewhere, so there's probably one near most of us..
    Last edited by Davesnave; 07-10-2017 at 7:14 AM.
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    • FBaby
    • By FBaby 7th Oct 17, 7:47 AM
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    Another thread and another case of 'treat the tenancy as a business arrangement when it benefits the tenant, but show yourself to be a compassionate individual to a stranger when it doesn't'!

    OP, it's very simple, if you've discovered that you don't like this person to be your tenant, whatever the reason -which for the matter of your business arrangement is irrelevant-, then give them notice when the tenancy comes to an end.

    The neighbours don't get to pick who moves next to them, that's the law for any neighbours.

    If you've agreed to a 6 months ast, which is standard to start with, then you can give notice at 4 months, so really, not that much time. If you've signed up to a 12 months ast, then you've made a mistake and you need to accept and learn from it.

    Do be prepared though that he might not want to live. Against, that's the risk you take of being a LL. All you can do is a risk assessment at the beginning and decide how much risk you want to take for the return.

    As others have said, there's sex offenders and sex offenders. Some men end up there foolishly because they decided to have a sexual relationship with a just under age girl they believe when they say they were 18. That doesn't make them more likely to attack the neighbours kids than some wierdo who hasn't yet been caught. You then need to decide whether your interests lay with a tenant who behaves perfectly as such, therefore supporting your investment, or with pleasing neighbours.
    • bossymoo
    • By bossymoo 7th Oct 17, 8:13 AM
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    *high 6*

    Disclaimer: I am East Anglian
    Originally posted by RedFraggle
    Pahahaha

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    Away with the fairies
    • Tygermoth
    • By Tygermoth 7th Oct 17, 11:49 AM
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    As someone who lived next door to a lovely lady who was labeled as such, had her car tires slashed, cars keyed and flaming bags of poop put on her doorstep, a fire set in her bin, stones thrown at her door....

    because the local teens didn't know the difference between a '!!!!!' and pediatrician.......... so i'm also not a big fan of a witch hunt.
    Last edited by Tygermoth; 07-10-2017 at 11:52 AM.
    Please note I have a cognitive disability - as such my wording can be a bit off, muddled, misspelt or in some cases i can miss out some words totally...
    • rosyw
    • By rosyw 7th Oct 17, 1:53 PM
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    Ever been to Norfolk?
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Hey! Not my part of Norfolk! There is a particular area of Norfolk to which your comment may well apply, the fenland bit, they all wear double headed balaclavas and have webbed feet too!
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