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    • wannaberich41
    • By wannaberich41 5th Oct 17, 6:29 PM
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    How to calculate holidays when leave job
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    How to calculate holidays when leave job 5th Oct 17 at 6:29 PM
    Hi,
    Can anyone help or advise please?
    How do you calculate how many paid holidays you are due or should get when you leave a job?
    The holidays run from 1st April to 31st March. The entitlement per year is 21 days. He has taken 7 days holiday.
    Does he owe back to the company or do they owe him paid holidays in final pay packet please?
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    • wannaberich41
    • By wannaberich41 5th Oct 17, 6:54 PM
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    Forgot to mention the 21 days doesn't include bank holidays.
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    • elsien
    • By elsien 5th Oct 17, 6:58 PM
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    What's his leaving date?
    And has he been there since the start of the holiday year?
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    • By maisie cat 5th Oct 17, 7:08 PM
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    The way that holiday is calculated is usually covered in an employment contract from memory. Some contracts only allow leave to be earned on completion of a full month so 1.75 days earned per complete month. Assuming he left on 30th September he has earned 1.75*6 days so 10.5 days and having taken 7.0 is owed 3.5 days. this is obviously just an example
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    • By wannaberich41 5th Oct 17, 7:32 PM
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    Yes been there since June 2016. Left today.
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    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 5th Oct 17, 7:45 PM
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    Some contracts only allow leave to be earned on completion of a full month
    Originally posted by maisie cat
    that would be illegal ... a company may say that people may not take paid leave before they have 'earned' it during the first year of employment, but the entitlement accrues from the first day of employment and then runs to the last day.

    21 days / 12 = 1.75 days per month
    1.75 days x 6 months = 10.5 days - actually I'd round that up to 11 because he has worked a few days of October.
    So I'd say owed 4 days, assuming that he hasn't had to work any bank holidays, and assuming that he's worked a five day week throughout.

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    • By getmore4less 5th Oct 17, 7:56 PM
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    statutory accrual is based on 5,6 weeks or 28 days prorata for the part of the holiday year worked.
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    • By jobbingmusician 5th Oct 17, 8:57 PM
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    statutory accrual is based on 5,6 weeks or 28 days prorata for the part of the holiday year worked.
    Originally posted by getmore4less
    Yes, but that INCLUDES BH. The OP has stated that the 21 days doesn't include BH.

    He is entitled to holiday accrued from 1st April - 30th Sept, plus 5 days. The April-Sept bit is easy - 10.5 days exactly, as that bit is exactly 6 months. He will also have accrued *some* holiday for the extra 5 days. The beauty is that the company is not allowed to round down, they can only round up. So unless they calculate holiday in hours (which is possible), he has accrued 11 days this year, has taken 7 so is owed 4 days. If they pay by the hour for holidays he will be owed 3.5 days plus - i think it's something like a twelvth of the hours he has worked in October, but no doubt someone will be around soon to remind both of us.

    Ha ha - I see my calcs are very similar to Savvy Sue's!
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    • By wannaberich41 5th Oct 17, 9:21 PM
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    He works on the land so currently was working 7 days a week. He has also worked 2 bank holidays.
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    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 5th Oct 17, 9:44 PM
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    Yes, but that INCLUDES BH. The OP has stated that the 21 days doesn't include BH.
    Originally posted by jobbingmusician
    exacltly my point.

    the prorata for 6 months is a min of 14 days or 14.5 if you use 21+8.

    prorata on 21 alone is wrong.
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    • jobbingmusician
    • By jobbingmusician 5th Oct 17, 9:57 PM
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    Fair enough - I see your point! Assuming he has not worked on any BH (ie he has taken them all as leave), he will have had 6 BH already this year out of the 8 available. So he will have had a total of 13 days of the (assumed) 14.5 he has earned, and the company will owe him only 1.5 days
    Last edited by jobbingmusician; 05-10-2017 at 10:00 PM.
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    • By Comms69 6th Oct 17, 10:58 AM
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    Hold on, he was working 7 days a week, which means he's entitled to more than the 29 days offered. Or am I missing something?
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    • By Undervalued 6th Oct 17, 11:29 AM
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    Hold on, he was working 7 days a week, which means he's entitled to more than the 29 days offered. Or am I missing something?
    Originally posted by Comms69
    No, not if the extra days were counted as overtime. In the absence of a contractual agreement for extra holiday it is calculated based on a normal 5 day week. The statutory entitlement is 5.6 weeks (28 days).
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    • By TELLIT01 6th Oct 17, 1:08 PM
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    There are potentially different rules covering leave for agricultural workers. Search 'agricultural workers annual leave' and go to the gov.uk site for details.
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    • By Comms69 6th Oct 17, 1:09 PM
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    No, not if the extra days were counted as overtime. In the absence of a contractual agreement for extra holiday it is calculated based on a normal 5 day week. The statutory entitlement is 5.6 weeks (28 days).
    Originally posted by Undervalued


    understood. thanks
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