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    • neha9
    • By neha9 3rd Oct 17, 9:03 AM
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    Driving test route and lessons
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    • 3rd Oct 17, 9:03 AM
    Driving test route and lessons 3rd Oct 17 at 9:03 AM
    Hi All,

    i am taking my driving lessons and in total have taken around 30 lessons with the current instructor and 8 lessons with my previous instructor. My concern is i have my test booked at garretts green and i m not familiar neither with the test centre or the test routes. My instructor doesn't want me to practice at the test routes as she thinks it is important to be able to drive on new roads and not just test routes. We already had so many lessons on 2 to 3 routes near my house but nothing at the test centre routes. the other day she took my mock test and i failed because it was a totally new road. She wants me to take more 15 lessons. I have asked her to take me to the test routes for the last few lessons but she refused.

    I have my test booked on nov 3rd.

    Any reviews would be helpfull.
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    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 3rd Oct 17, 9:09 AM
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    I think your instructor is right, if you can only drive on roads that you are familiar with you're not ready to have a full licence.
    • neha9
    • By neha9 3rd Oct 17, 9:21 AM
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    Yes, i agree practicing on new roads, but in the last 30 lessons we have just practiced with in 3 miles of my home. she should have atleast taken me once to the test centre or any test centre route. She said in the coming lessons she will just take me 1 round to the test centre.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 3rd Oct 17, 9:24 AM
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    When you pass your test, you will suddenly be driving not only on roads that you've not driven on before, but with nobody sitting next to you - except, maybe, a carfull of screaming mates with the music up load...

    If you're panicking just from the thought of driving on roads that you haven't specifically practised on, are you REALLY ready for that? Of course not.

    Familiarity with the roads of the test is the least important bit of being ready.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 3rd Oct 17, 9:29 AM
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    You need to show you can drive independently with the required level of competency and awareness . How are you going to prove your're capable of this if you can't drive down unfamiliar roads.
    • takman
    • By takman 3rd Oct 17, 9:56 AM
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    • 3rd Oct 17, 9:56 AM
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    • 3rd Oct 17, 9:56 AM
    Yes, i agree practicing on new roads, but in the last 30 lessons we have just practiced with in 3 miles of my home. she should have atleast taken me once to the test centre or any test centre route. She said in the coming lessons she will just take me 1 round to the test centre.
    Originally posted by neha9
    Have you not done any driving outside of lessons?. If not this may be why you feel you are unable to drive on new roads.
    • neha9
    • By neha9 3rd Oct 17, 10:44 AM
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    Yes i totally understand my instructors point of view. We have always praticed on the same roads in all the lessons and but when she took my mock test was on new route. The first 45mts of the test everything was ok and no majors including independent driving. She then extended the test to more 30mts of independent driving following the road signs. She failed the mock test for not following the road signs. The next 30 mts of independent driving was on big roundabouts and dual carriageway. She didn't show me any map.
    • neha9
    • By neha9 3rd Oct 17, 10:51 AM
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    I have actually taken 50 lessons in total. 12 lessons when i was in london. Then i moved to birmingham in july. It is just that she has never taken me to any new roads. We have just been practicing local.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 3rd Oct 17, 10:53 AM
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    • 3rd Oct 17, 10:53 AM
    She didn't show me any map.
    Originally posted by neha9
    Why do you need a map?

    You're following the instructor's (or examiner's) directions and the road signs. No more, no less.

    You're dealing with the road conditions as they unfold in front of you - not as they were last time you went along that road.
    • neha9
    • By neha9 3rd Oct 17, 10:53 AM
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    I would like to know if i should continue with the same instructor or change the instructor. My test is next month
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 3rd Oct 17, 10:56 AM
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    I would like to know if i should continue with the same instructor or change the instructor. My test is next month
    Originally posted by neha9
    If you have an issue with that instructor, then you need to consider if that will be outweighed by the hassle-factor of changing instructor so near to your test.

    If you're panicking because you've never driven on the roads before, and haven't seen a map, then you aren't ready for your test. Your instructor is not an issue in that, although they may be a symptom. You cannot predict how ready somebody may or may not be from the number of lessons they've had.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 3rd Oct 17, 10:59 AM
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    After about my third lesson, when I was able to drive confidently enough from my home to the area around the nearest test centre, my instructor took me on the routes used by the test centre for my lessons. When I got to the test, apart from one double parked road that was always difficult to negotiate throughout all my lessons, which was used right at the start of the test, the examiner ten sent me off to a completely different part of town so it was all new to me.

    You need to be able to pass the test on unfamiliar roads, because even if you practice on common test routes, you might not get one.

    I started learning in June and had my test in February, because there was a six month wait for appointments on a Saturday at the time ( I was doing A levels, so no possibility of taking a day off ) and had a total of 17 one hour lessons, plus practice with my parents. The practice part was important with getting confidence as hours driving do matter in building that up, and my dad wouldn't let me get away with anything while I was driving!
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    • takman
    • By takman 3rd Oct 17, 11:03 AM
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    I have actually taken 50 lessons in total. 12 lessons when i was in london. Then i moved to birmingham in july. It is just that she has never taken me to any new roads. We have just been practicing local.
    Originally posted by neha9
    If you have had 50 lessons and still feel unsure of driving then you really need to stop wasting money on lessons. You need to get your own car or get insured on someone else's car and do lots of driving outside of lessons which will build up your confidence. There is no point in paying someone £20+ an hour to sit next to you when you can go driving with a family member/friend for a fraction of that cost.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 3rd Oct 17, 12:23 PM
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    You're probably better doing the test somewhere you don't know - you won't be making any assumptions about what's coming or the route, so will have to act on the instructions and signage. Especially for the free-driving part.
    • Jackmydad
    • By Jackmydad 3rd Oct 17, 2:03 PM
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    Long time ago when I took my test, but didn't it used to say something about staying away from the test course until your actual test?
    I think it was to try to stop there being too many learners on the roads around there.

    I didn't know the area where I took my test at all really. As others have said, if you're not confident to drive anywhere, then you're not ready for a full licence yet.

    As you've had a fair few lessons I'd stop worrying about it, and go with what the instructor says.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 3rd Oct 17, 4:57 PM
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    It's all about confidence. Not just your confidence, but the confidence, in your instructor's judgement, that you are ready to drive on all roads, not just the ones you know. You need to practice on all roads, with different signs and different motoring conditions. Can you ask an experienced driver - family member or friend with a full licence - to accompany you?

    Driving is a matter of brain and muscle memory: the more of it you do, the more it becomes integrated within your mind and body. The fact that you cannot understand that you need to drive on other roads in other areas and conditions, means that is exactly what you need to practice.
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    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 3rd Oct 17, 6:44 PM
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    Hi All,

    i am taking my driving lessons and in total have taken around 30 lessons with the current instructor and 8 lessons with my previous instructor. My concern is i have my test booked at garretts green and i m not familiar neither with the test centre or the test routes. My instructor doesn't want me to practice at the test routes as she thinks it is important to be able to drive on new roads and not just test routes. We already had so many lessons on 2 to 3 routes near my house but nothing at the test centre routes. the other day she took my mock test and i failed because it was a totally new road. She wants me to take more 15 lessons. I have asked her to take me to the test routes for the last few lessons but she refused.

    I have my test booked on nov 3rd.

    Any reviews would be helpfull.
    Originally posted by neha9
    Let's hope you turn right and not left when you hit the Meadway. You don't want to be heading towards B10 on test.
    • walwyn1978
    • By walwyn1978 3rd Oct 17, 8:59 PM
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    Long time ago when I took my test, but didn't it used to say something about staying away from the test course until your actual test?
    I think it was to try to stop there being too many learners on the roads around there.

    I didn't know the area where I took my test at all really. As others have said, if you're not confident to drive anywhere, then you're not ready for a full licence yet.

    As you've had a fair few lessons I'd stop worrying about it, and go with what the instructor says.
    Originally posted by Jackmydad
    Agreed on the first point - my instructor (22 years ago) didn't take me anywhere near the test centre bit of town unto the day itself.
    • matttye
    • By matttye 3rd Oct 17, 11:08 PM
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    Yes i totally understand my instructors point of view. We have always praticed on the same roads in all the lessons and but when she took my mock test was on new route. The first 45mts of the test everything was ok and no majors including independent driving. She then extended the test to more 30mts of independent driving following the road signs. She failed the mock test for not following the road signs. The next 30 mts of independent driving was on big roundabouts and dual carriageway. She didn't show me any map.
    Originally posted by neha9
    Going the wrong way on a driving test isn't a fail so I don't think this would be the reason why your driving instructor failed you on your mock test - perhaps clarify that. If you forget the directions you've been given you can ask the examiner to repeat them.

    On my driving test the examiner told me to follow the road ahead unless told otherwise. At some stage the road split into two lanes and I remained in the left hand lane. Quite late I saw a road sign telling me the left lane was for going left and the right lane was for going straight ahead. I simply checked my right mirror, narrated that it was too late for me to safely pull into the right hand lane to carry straight on (due to traffic) so I would have to go left instead. He gave me a minor for that.
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 4th Oct 17, 7:25 AM
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    Going the wrong way on a driving test isn't a fail so I don't think this would be the reason why your driving instructor failed you on your mock test - perhaps clarify that. If you forget the directions you've been given you can ask the examiner to repeat them.

    On my driving test the examiner told me to follow the road ahead unless told otherwise. At some stage the road split into two lanes and I remained in the left hand lane. Quite late I saw a road sign telling me the left lane was for going left and the right lane was for going straight ahead. I simply checked my right mirror, narrated that it was too late for me to safely pull into the right hand lane to carry straight on (due to traffic) so I would have to go left instead. He gave me a minor for that.
    Originally posted by matttye
    Are you sure? Taking the wrong turn is not a fault. More likely it was for failing to check your left mirror, ot to signal left.
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