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    • kiemeg62
    • By kiemeg62 29th Sep 17, 5:36 PM
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    Buying my first car what checks should I do
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    • 29th Sep 17, 5:36 PM
    Buying my first car what checks should I do 29th Sep 17 at 5:36 PM
    Hiya I'm going to buy my first used car tomorrow to learn how to drive in.
    I will be paying cash so no finance.
    Should I be doing checks on the car myself? I saw on auto trader about hpi checks but unsure which checks I would need to do myself and where I would do these.
    Any help would be fab
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    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 29th Sep 17, 6:37 PM
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    Take someone who knows something about vehicle mechanics. There are lots of things to be checking for such as checking all the fluid levels, the tyres, the oil and seeing if there is any signs of "mayonnaise" which can indicate a faulty headgasket, taking the vehicle on a test drive to check the steering, brakes, clutch, gearbox.
    • britishboy
    • By britishboy 29th Sep 17, 6:44 PM
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    • 29th Sep 17, 6:44 PM
    Search online for a checklist for the specific car you are buying, for example

    'buying checklist for Ford Escort(insert car here) common faults' etc. Someone on a forum dedicated to that car may well of generated a list of common faults etc
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 29th Sep 17, 7:15 PM
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    • 29th Sep 17, 7:15 PM
    Check out how much the insurance will cost before you buy it.

    Check the oil, a little dirty is ok, but and not black or milky.

    • F1F93
    • By F1F93 29th Sep 17, 8:21 PM
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    • 29th Sep 17, 8:21 PM
    Check out how much the insurance will cost before you buy it.

    Check the oil, a little dirty is ok, but and not black or milky.
    Originally posted by sevenhills
    This is ridiculous. Oil turns black rather quickly - especially on a diesel. Unless you want to change the oil after every journey, you need to accept that it will turn black.

    A good service history, on the other hand, is very beneficial.
    • macman
    • By macman 29th Sep 17, 10:09 PM
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    Buying it tomorrow?
    Then telling us the price, make, model, year and mileage would be helpful. Unless you are just planning to buy the first car you see. Since you are a cash buyer, what is your budget?
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    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 29th Sep 17, 11:55 PM
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    • 29th Sep 17, 11:55 PM
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    • 29th Sep 17, 11:55 PM
    This is ridiculous. Oil turns black rather quickly - especially on a diesel. Unless you want to change the oil after every journey, you need to accept that it will turn black.
    Originally posted by F1F93
    My oil is not black; petrol or diesel, so black oil is ok 50% of the time.

    • F1F93
    • By F1F93 30th Sep 17, 8:08 AM
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    • 30th Sep 17, 8:08 AM
    My oil is not black; petrol or diesel, so black oil is ok 50% of the time.
    Originally posted by sevenhills
    Well, the oil on my diesel is black. I changed it myself earlier this month, maybe 500 miles ago. Are you saying that I should he changing it already?

    My point is that oil colour is not a recognised measurement of the quality and cleanliness of oil. Without sucking out a sample and sending it off to the lab to be analysed, the most reliable way of determining the age of the oil is to simply check the service book.
    • kiemeg62
    • By kiemeg62 30th Sep 17, 8:50 AM
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    • 30th Sep 17, 8:50 AM
    Thanks for all your replies
    I will be taking my dad and son with me but don't want to be stood useless haha
    I hpi checked car and all ok
    It's 2006 toyota yaris, 5dr, 1.3L, with 64000 miles.
    Has service history until December 2016
    Advisory on mot are
    Number plate deterioration, front headlights deterioration and brake pipes.
    All other mots passed
    Car is listed for £1999
    • thescouselander
    • By thescouselander 30th Sep 17, 9:38 AM
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    There's the usual visual checks like tyre depths, fluid levels and condition, leaks etc. Don't forget to use your ears too - does the engine sound right, are there any knocking noises when driving etc.

    It takes a tuned ear but often you can tell a lot more about a car by listening to it that you can find out by just looking.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 30th Sep 17, 2:59 PM
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    It's 2006 toyota yaris, 5dr, 1.3L, with 64000 miles.
    Originally posted by kiemeg62
    Ouch, low mileage. So it has either spent a lot of time stood or mostly done short journeys, either of which are not good for a car.

    So in addition to normal checks, check things like the exhaust which is going to be quite rusty compared to one doing average mileage, make sure that the steering isn't slack and that the shock absorbers do their job. Check for sounds of knocking over bumps. Listen for any sign of rattling at all from the engine. It uses a timing chain so any sign of a rattle, walk away.

    In regards to servicing, make sure it was done to the time limits, not just the mileage. On low mileage like that it actually comes under an abnormal service schedule so should have been serviced once a year before it reached the 10,000 mile service intervals. Its last service should have been a major service.
    • consumers_revenge
    • By consumers_revenge 30th Sep 17, 5:37 PM
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    So its doing roughly 110 miles a week.


    Not exactly sat on its ar5e then is it??
    • ilikethesimpsons
    • By ilikethesimpsons 30th Sep 17, 6:12 PM
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    Car is listed for £1999
    Originally posted by kiemeg62
    Do a few internet searches, subject to body condition that is about £500 over priced.
    • parking_question_chap
    • By parking_question_chap 1st Oct 17, 6:21 PM
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    Ouch, low mileage. So it has either spent a lot of time stood or mostly done short journeys, either of which are not good for a car.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    The whole low milage concern is way overdone imo.

    If the car has spent the the last year between MOTs having done just a few hundred miles then yes it might have caused issues. But an average of around 6,000 isnt anything to worry about imo.

    My car is older than the one OP is looking at and for the last 7 or so years I have done under 4,000 miles a year and almost exclusively short trips, despite this it runs perfectly.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 2nd Oct 17, 9:11 AM
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    I did my hpi check through auto trader.

    I am not mechanical minded about cars, I used this check list to buy my current one https://www.vcars.co.uk/news/motoring-advice/aa-cars-used-car-checklist-8222.html

    This was my first used car in 12 years, my previous was brand new.

    All ok as i drove it 140 miles home and no issues after a year and half.

    Even took it for a 15-20 min test drive, they lived a bit away from the motorway and I wanted to know how the felt at high speed, not just residential streets.
    Last edited by cjdavies; 02-10-2017 at 9:15 AM.
    • macman
    • By macman 2nd Oct 17, 10:49 AM
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    Is this a dealer sale, or private?
    Remember with the latter that you have minimal consumer protection: the seller does not have to tell you anything about it's condition, only to be truthful about any questions you might ask. Subject, to that, you are buying it 'as seen' with no comebacks.
    I'd be dubious about a seller who has had an MOT advisory about brake pipes (presumably corrosion?) but not had it seen to. How long has it got left on the MOT?
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    • Bigphil1474
    • By Bigphil1474 4th Oct 17, 10:10 AM
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    If it's a dealer, don't pay it all in cash - ask them to let you pay a bit on credit card, and rest cash - say £100 cc, rest cash. That way you have extra protection through your CC. I think you only need to pay £1 on CC, but that would be taking the mick. As long as the car costs more than £100, but less than £36k then the CC cover kicks in if you ever need to get money back.
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