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    • Sean McVey
    • By Sean McVey 17th Sep 17, 8:57 PM
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    Notice of Debt Recovery
    • #1
    • 17th Sep 17, 8:57 PM
    Notice of Debt Recovery 17th Sep 17 at 8:57 PM
    Hi - I could do with some advice on this.
    I got a ticket for not parking within the lines in a private car park. I appealed to the Independent Appeals Service but lost.
    The carpark operator, Premier Parking Logistics, have now passed on my details to Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd (DCBL) who have sent a Notice of Debt Recovery. The initial £60 fine went up to £100 because I appealed and now DCBL, in their Notice of Debt Recovery, are saying there's a further £60 admin and recovery fee added making it £160. The letter says "Failure to address within 14 days.... will result in your case being reviewed for legal recovery and such costs being added to the debt for recovery."
    I've read much of the stuff on the forum and the advice seems to be that this letter has no legal authority. But I am concerned about ever spiralling demands for recovery costs being sent to me and ultimately having to pay this in court.
    Would be really grateful for advice on the best way to proceed.
    Thank you
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 17th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
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    • #2
    • 17th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
    • #2
    • 17th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
    The advice here is to completely ignore debt collectors.

    See

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5035663
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th Sep 17, 9:07 PM
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    • #3
    • 17th Sep 17, 9:07 PM
    • #3
    • 17th Sep 17, 9:07 PM
    Would be really grateful for advice on the best way to proceed.
    Read the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post # 4. Come back if you get an extremely unlikely court claim. I don't think PPL is likely to want to go anywhere near a court.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387286/Clamping-boss-Walton-Wilkins-claims-10m-impounding-cars.html

    Have you read this thread too - it's almost always on the first page of this forum?

    READ THIS BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD ABOUT ROSSENDALES or DEBT RECOVERY PLUS
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 17th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
    • #4
    • 17th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
    Hi - I could do with some advice on this.
    I got a ticket for not parking within the lines in a private car park. I appealed to the Independent Appeals Service but lost.
    The carpark operator, Premier Parking Logistics, have now passed on my details to Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd (DCBL) who have sent a Notice of Debt Recovery. The initial £60 fine went up to £100 because I appealed and now DCBL, in their Notice of Debt Recovery, are saying there's a further £60 admin and recovery fee added making it £160. The letter says "Failure to address within 14 days.... will result in your case being reviewed for legal recovery and such costs being added to the debt for recovery."
    I've read much of the stuff on the forum and the advice seems to be that this letter has no legal authority. But I am concerned about ever spiralling demands for recovery costs being sent to me and ultimately having to pay this in court.
    Would be really grateful for advice on the best way to proceed.
    Thank you
    Originally posted by Sean McVey
    So you understand

    1: The IAS is simply a scam set by Gladstones Solicitors
    to support parking cowboys like Premier Parking Logistics
    The scam is simple
    >>> Premier Parking Logistics will reject any appeal
    and then offer a so called independent appeals service .. the IAS
    who will also reject it

    Then the parking cowboy instructs debt collectors who in the capacity of debt collectors are timewasters and to be completely
    ignored. NEVER CONTACT THEM

    In your case, they have instructed DCBL and probably the
    word Bailiff has concerned you.
    DCBL wear two hats
    1: High Court Bailiffs
    2: Timewasting debt collectors

    They can only act as high court bailiffs if a case is lost in court,
    mostly county courts, and the claimant does not get paid, then
    for a fee they can apply to the high court for bailiffs to call

    In your case this is not happening as you have not been to court
    and as DCBL say ... "will result in your case being reviewed for legal recovery and such costs being added to the debt for recovery."

    DCBL will pass it back to Premier Parking Logistics because they
    will fail collecting any money from you
    Premier Parking Logistics if they decide to will then instruct
    a solicitor and if all follows the usual patter we see her daily,
    they will instruct the scam master Gladstones Solicitors to contact
    you. Gladstones are a highly incompetent firm that have come
    to the attention of the courts for wasting the courts time.

    If you hear from Gladstones then return here for all the
    help you need.

    However please take note of what Umkomaas says above.

    If Gladstones or any other daft solicitor acts on the instructions
    of Premier Parking Logistics they leave themselves wide open
    for a whooping in court as Premier Parking Logistics have a bad
    history already noted on the courts systems and IT'S so easy
    to resurrect if that's what Premier Parking Logistics want

    You are now dealing with scammers on all sides so sit tight
    and wait ... DON'T CONTACT THEM -- EVER
    Forget debt collectors
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Sean McVey
    • By Sean McVey 18th Sep 17, 11:48 PM
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    • 18th Sep 17, 11:48 PM
    • #5
    • 18th Sep 17, 11:48 PM
    Thanks beamerguy, that's very helpful
    • Sean McVey
    • By Sean McVey 5th Oct 17, 9:35 PM
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    • #6
    • 5th Oct 17, 9:35 PM
    • #6
    • 5th Oct 17, 9:35 PM
    Hi - wonder if you can advise.
    I got a letter from the car park operator asking for £100 to settle which I ignored.
    Now received a letter from DCBL titled 'Legal Recovery Action' saying they are recommending to their client the commencement of legal action against me.
    Be grateful for advice on how to proceed.
    Thanks
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 5th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
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    • #7
    • 5th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
    • #7
    • 5th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
    See post #3 - debt collectors are all the same.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 5th Oct 17, 10:04 PM
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    • #8
    • 5th Oct 17, 10:04 PM
    • #8
    • 5th Oct 17, 10:04 PM
    Hi - wonder if you can advise.
    I got a letter from the car park operator asking for £100 to settle which I ignored.
    Now received a letter from DCBL titled 'Legal Recovery Action' saying they are recommending to their client the commencement of legal action against me.
    Be grateful for advice on how to proceed.
    Thanks
    Originally posted by Sean McVey
    What a joke, this is a "we give up" letter

    Let them recommend to their client, good luck to them

    With the new claim procedure now in force, oh boy, the solicitors
    that act for this scam will really struggle

    DCBL as debt collectors have failed and as the debt(so called)
    does not belong to them, it's the end of the line for DCBL

    Just wait to see which crazy solicitor will take this on
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Sean McVey
    • By Sean McVey 6th Oct 17, 9:43 AM
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    • #9
    • 6th Oct 17, 9:43 AM
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    • 6th Oct 17, 9:43 AM
    Thanks Beamerguy.

    What's the likely outcome if they appoint a soilicitor?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 6th Oct 17, 9:48 AM
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    Thanks Beamerguy.

    What's the likely outcome if they appoint a soilicitor?
    Originally posted by Sean McVey
    Youíll get a solicitorís letter.

    Are you still talking about PPL here, or is this about a different ticket from a different PPC?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 6th Oct 17, 9:51 AM
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    Quentin

    What's the likely outcome if they appoint a soilicitor?
    Originally posted by Sean McVey


    The whole process for these cases is set out in the Newbies faq thread.

    Read up there on how these pan out.

    As you have been advised throughout your thread, ignore debt collectors and wait and see if you get any proper lbcca or Court correspondence. If so come back for advice on how to defend this at that time.

    Creditors have six years to take court action
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 6th Oct 17, 10:30 AM
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    Thanks Beamerguy.

    What's the likely outcome if they appoint a soilicitor?
    Originally posted by Sean McVey
    It's highly possible. Then it's up to your defence which you
    will get all the help here.

    As you know, as from the 1st October, the ball park has changed
    regarding claims and what it means is the claimant must
    open a dialogue with you and not making wild unfounded
    threats

    Should a solicitor not comply with the new procedures, anyone
    can complain directly to the Ministry of Justice, David Lidington
    The new procedure is now law.

    As of now, you deny any debt and request proof.
    If they ignore thar, they are in trouble
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 6th Oct 17, 10:38 AM
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    What's the likely outcome if they appoint a soilicitor?

    They will lose a court case and pay you £95 plus all their legal costs.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Sean McVey
    • By Sean McVey 8th Oct 17, 11:54 AM
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    Thanks for the feedback all, appreciated.
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