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    • Mrs Mac 1
    • By Mrs Mac 1 17th Sep 17, 7:33 PM
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    recruitment agencies
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    • 17th Sep 17, 7:33 PM
    recruitment agencies 17th Sep 17 at 7:33 PM
    Hello

    can anyone shed any light on how recruitment agencies operate? I am looking for work and am somewhat puzzled as I keep submitting my cv and I rarely hear anything back. I know I meet all the criteria for the jobs as advertised. When I follow up with a phone call to them, the reception person usually just tells me that I have to wait for one of the staff to get in contact with me. Surely this is open to a bit of nepotism of sorts? Like if my "friend" worked in one of these recruitment agencies, they could "reserve" the "better" jobs for me so others would never get a look-in?

    Just wondering what anyone else's experience has been.

    Thanks in advance.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 20th Sep 17, 6:28 PM
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    Yes, that is what makes an agency "good", so far as a candidate is concerned. For anything else to be true, they would really have to trust the agent to have their best interests at heart.
    I've never met an agent I would credit that way.
    Originally posted by RikM
    Agreed. Me neither.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • IrishMarco
    • By IrishMarco 3rd Oct 17, 10:32 AM
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    Check out Belfastforlife.com
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 3rd Oct 17, 1:09 PM
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    Check out Belfastforlife.com
    Originally posted by IrishMarco
    Why?

    Its a front for Abacus Recruitment to drive traffic to their job pages.

    This seems an awful lot like SPAM to me.....
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • allianceinternational
    • By allianceinternational 1st Nov 17, 11:34 AM
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    The basic element students must know to b acquainted with a discipline or solve problems in it.

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    • guiriman
    • By guiriman 1st Nov 17, 2:14 PM
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    For anything else to be true, they would really have to trust the agent to have their best interests at heart.
    I've never met an agent I would credit that way.
    Originally posted by RikM
    In the interest of fairness I have to come back on what I said in response to what I said earlier. In October I had a couple of interviews for a job but was pipped at the post for it by another person, so I put it out of my mind and moved on. On Monday I got a call from the recruitment agent for that job, they phoned to inform me that the job the guy that got it was now being advertised but not by them and that it would fit with what I was looking for (that guy is moving sideways). They then gave me his number so I could have a chat with him even though his employer is using a different recruitment firm and there is no money in it for them for me to apply or get it.

    I am not naive enough to think they truly care about me, they see an opportunity to get someone in there who will view them favourably for future recruitment plus they make it more likely I will speak to them if/when I want another move, but on this occasion they have done something beneficial to me and no benefit to themselves. I am equally shocked and delighted (and will be more delighted if I get the job of course!)
    • blinkmck
    • By blinkmck 2nd Nov 17, 11:00 AM
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    In the interest of fairness I have to come back on what I said in response to what I said earlier. In October I had a couple of interviews for a job but was pipped at the post for it by another person, so I put it out of my mind and moved on. On Monday I got a call from the recruitment agent for that job, they phoned to inform me that the job the guy that got it was now being advertised but not by them and that it would fit with what I was looking for (that guy is moving sideways). They then gave me his number so I could have a chat with him even though his employer is using a different recruitment firm and there is no money in it for them for me to apply or get it.

    I am not naive enough to think they truly care about me, they see an opportunity to get someone in there who will view them favourably for future recruitment plus they make it more likely I will speak to them if/when I want another move, but on this occasion they have done something beneficial to me and no benefit to themselves. I am equally shocked and delighted (and will be more delighted if I get the job of course!)
    Originally posted by guiriman


    If the agency that you originally dealt with, introduced you to the company within a certain time frame e.g. the last 6 months, they can lay claim for the commission despite it being advertised elsewhere, so effectively getting the money and doing over one of their competitors at the same time
    • guiriman
    • By guiriman 3rd Nov 17, 9:30 AM
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    If the agency that you originally dealt with, introduced you to the company within a certain time frame e.g. the last 6 months, they can lay claim for the commission despite it being advertised elsewhere, so effectively getting the money and doing over one of their competitors at the same time
    Originally posted by blinkmck
    Yes, but they haven't. They've just put me directly in touch with the guy who's moving on and he's directed me to the recruiter. From the employer and recruiter point of view I'm an independent citizen interested in the role.
    • People Save
    • By People Save 12th Dec 17, 1:01 PM
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    If you are going to work as recruitment agent try to care about the worker. Imagine yourself in their place and how would like to be treated.

    I have a very bad experience with Bespoke Recruitment. Promised job for at least 3 months caused me to relocate. Job taken away after 3 weeks along with all other new staff employed at same time as ne.
    They had bad communication, no proper wage slips.
    Lied about lots of things.
    wrongfully deducted money from my account.
    Too many negatives to list. And they didnt care at all and were even insulting. They treat people like trash.
    I guess thats why Bespoke is only a small less important recruitment agency.
    I dont know whether I should blame the whole bespoke organisation or just the local wolverhampton office? Should I blame their director Ian Taylor since he was the boss of local branch and is responsible? Yet all the staff at Bespoke were not up to a good standard.
    Bespoke were allied in same office with blueglobal and national travel, probably same company with different names and they all behaved negatively.
    I know that Argos uses Bespoke, and I think it reflects badly upon Argos to use such a negative recruitment agency.
    Anyway just wanted to say beware of Bespoke, Blueglobal and National Travel. Try to avoid such negative companies. There arè lots of better recruitment agencies.

    Try to be a better recruiter!!
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 12th Dec 17, 2:20 PM
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    If you are going to work as recruitment agent try to care about the worker. Imagine yourself in their place and how would like to be treated.
    Originally posted by People Save
    They wont - because the employer pays the fee, not the employee.

    Ultimately these people are your BFF when they think you are a right fit for the job role and then drop you like a hot potato when it doesnt work out and they move on to the next target

    Thats the way it works, sadly. They're not in it to get you a job, they're in it to get the employer an employee.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 12th Dec 17, 2:42 PM
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    If you are going to work as recruitment agent try to care about the worker. Imagine yourself in their place and how would like to be treated.

    I have a very bad experience with Bespoke Recruitment. Promised job for at least 3 months caused me to relocate. Job taken away after 3 weeks along with all other new staff employed at same time as ne.
    They had bad communication, no proper wage slips.
    Lied about lots of things.
    wrongfully deducted money from my account.
    Too many negatives to list. And they didnt care at all and were even insulting. They treat people like trash.
    I guess thats why Bespoke is only a small less important recruitment agency.
    I dont know whether I should blame the whole bespoke organisation or just the local wolverhampton office? Should I blame their director Ian Taylor since he was the boss of local branch and is responsible? Yet all the staff at Bespoke were not up to a good standard.
    Bespoke were allied in same office with blueglobal and national travel, probably same company with different names and they all behaved negatively.
    I know that Argos uses Bespoke, and I think it reflects badly upon Argos to use such a negative recruitment agency.
    Anyway just wanted to say beware of Bespoke, Blueglobal and National Travel. Try to avoid such negative companies. There arè lots of better recruitment agencies.

    Try to be a better recruiter!!
    Originally posted by People Save
    I'd have an awful lot more respect for your opinion if either :-

    (a) you hadnt created an account just to slag off Bespoke (and thus protect your own account) OR
    (b) you had otherwise been contributing to the forums rather than just coming on here to slag off an organisation based on your own particular subjective experience.

    On the face of it, you took on a temporary job role, and made life changing decisions based on a TEMP role. Circumstances changed with Bespoke and unfortunately Bespoke reacted accordingly.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • People Save
    • By People Save 12th Dec 17, 7:52 PM
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    How Bespoke operates!
    They just wanted to get as much money out of people for as little effort. Thats how Bespoke operated. They didn't care much about cvs or training anybody. They just used people in a disposable temporary way.
    Choosing a good recruitment agency probably the most important thing as they can all operate differently.
    Bespoke are the worst recruitment agency Ive experienced. Beware of them!
    Promised job for at least 3 months caused me to relocate. Job taken away after 3 weeks along with all other new staff employed at same time as me.
    They had bad communication, no proper wage slips.
    Lied about lots of things.
    wrongfully deducted money from my account.
    Too many negatives to list. And they didnt care at all and were even insulting. They treat people like trash.
    I guess thats why Bespoke is only a small less important recruitment agency.
    I dont know whether I should blame the whole bespoke organisation or just the local wolverhampton office? Should I blame their director Ian Taylor since he was the boss of local branch and is responsible? Yet all the staff at Bespoke were not up to a good standard.
    Bespoke were allied in same office with blueglobal and national travel, probably same company with different names and they all behaved negatively.
    I know that Argos uses Bespoke, and I think it reflects badly upon Argos to use such a negative recruitment agency.
    Anyway just wanted to say beware of Bespoke, Blueglobal and National Travel. Try to avoid such negative companies. There arè lots of better recruitment agencies.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 13th Dec 17, 8:27 AM
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    And any small modicum of respect that was remaining just pee'd down the toilet.

    Well done!
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 13th Dec 17, 8:34 AM
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    They just wanted to get as much money out of people for as little effort. Thats how Bespoke operated. They didn't care much about cvs or training anybody. They just used people in a disposable temporary way.
    Choosing a good recruitment agency probably the most important thing as they can all operate differently.
    Bespoke are the worst recruitment agency Ive experienced. Beware of them!
    Promised job for at least 3 months caused me to relocate. Job taken away after 3 weeks along with all other new staff employed at same time as me.
    They had bad communication, no proper wage slips.
    Lied about lots of things.
    wrongfully deducted money from my account.
    Too many negatives to list. And they didnt care at all and were even insulting. They treat people like trash.
    I guess thats why Bespoke is only a small less important recruitment agency.
    I dont know whether I should blame the whole bespoke organisation or just the local wolverhampton office? Should I blame their director Ian Taylor since he was the boss of local branch and is responsible? Yet all the staff at Bespoke were not up to a good standard.
    Bespoke were allied in same office with blueglobal and national travel, probably same company with different names and they all behaved negatively.
    I know that Argos uses Bespoke, and I think it reflects badly upon Argos to use such a negative recruitment agency.
    Anyway just wanted to say beware of Bespoke, Blueglobal and National Travel. Try to avoid such negative companies. There arè lots of better recruitment agencies.
    Originally posted by People Save
    So your beef is you relocated based on a TEMP job, and the EMPLOYERS situation changed and as per the terms and conditions in your TEMP employee contract, the agency had to let you go?
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • trigger fish
    • By trigger fish 13th Dec 17, 8:43 AM
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    I'd never relocate on the basis of an agency temp job.

    But OP you probably don't know what they can be like.

    I've done quite a bit of agency work over the years and I've very little good to say about them.

    False and broken promises, falsehoods about hours and conditions, being let go for no obvious reason to myself, just about seen it all.
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