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    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 16th Sep 17, 10:56 PM
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    Leaving your car idle
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    • 16th Sep 17, 10:56 PM
    Leaving your car idle 16th Sep 17 at 10:56 PM
    Hi,

    What happens if you leave your car idle ? By that I mean if you don't use it at all for a while and not turning on the engine and leave it running- so leaving the car unused for say a month - how will the car deteriorate if not used?

    thanks,

    habib.
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    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 16th Sep 17, 11:11 PM
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    Over a month or so you won't have many problems:

    Thanks to modern electronics you may end up with a flat battery.

    If you leave the hand brake on (especially in wet weather) you may find it's stuck on. So, if you can, leave the handbrake off with the car in gear.

    If the car's in reasonable condition that should be just about it really!
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 17th Sep 17, 12:29 AM
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    My neighbour and I look after each other's cars whilst one of us is away for more than a few days. However, we live in a Close which is a cul-de-sac and the understanding is that the one still here will move the other's car around the Close every other day, to work the brakes, run the engine and ensure there are no problems. Doing that on a street or main road, would obviously cause potential insurance problems.

    Joe Horner's advice about the handbrake off is good. Moving the car and applying brakes also prevents surface rust forming on brake discs. Very long periods parked in one place, may cause tyre surfaces to flatten slightly under the weight. But up to a month, there should be no problems. Is it garaged?
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    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 17th Sep 17, 12:37 AM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:37 AM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:37 AM
    My neighbour and I look after each other's cars whilst one of us is away for more than a few days. However, we live in a Close which is a cul-de-sac and the understanding is that the one still here will move the other's car around the Close every other day, to work the brakes, run the engine and ensure there are no problems. Doing that on a street or main road, would obviously cause potential insurance problems.

    Joe Horner's advice about the handbrake off is good. Moving the car and applying brakes also prevents surface rust forming on brake discs. Very long periods parked in one place, may cause tyre surfaces to flatten slightly under the weight. But up to a month, there should be no problems. Is it garaged?
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Same as moving it in your close really.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 17th Sep 17, 9:47 AM
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    Same as moving it in your close really.
    Originally posted by Warwick Hunt
    Drink drive in a cul de sac, it's ok officer it's.not a street or main road
    • takman
    • By takman 17th Sep 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 10:58 AM
    My neighbour and I look after each other's cars whilst one of us is away for more than a few days. However, we live in a Close which is a cul-de-sac and the understanding is that the one still here will move the other's car around the Close every other day, to work the brakes, run the engine and ensure there are no problems. Doing that on a street or main road, would obviously cause potential insurance problems.

    Joe Horner's advice about the handbrake off is good. Moving the car and applying brakes also prevents surface rust forming on brake discs. Very long periods parked in one place, may cause tyre surfaces to flatten slightly under the weight. But up to a month, there should be no problems. Is it garaged?
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Just starting the engine and running it up and down the road will do more gaek than good to the engine because it never warms up fully. It will also put extra strain on the battery by starting the car and not being charged enough, so will reduce the life of the battery.

    Plus as the poster above said it doesn't matter what kind of road it's driven on they ALL need the driver to be insured. So overall it's a pretty silly idea, you would be better off just leaving it parked up.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 17th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
    My neighbour and I look after each other's cars whilst one of us is away for more than a few days. However, we live in a Close which is a cul-de-sac and the understanding is that the one still here will move the other's car around the Close every other day, to work the brakes, run the engine and ensure there are no problems. Doing that on a street or main road, would obviously cause potential insurance problems.
    Originally posted by Robisere
    I'm with others on this. Starting the car, driving it a short distance then parking it again is doing more harm than good. You are already causing potential insurance problems, too. If you're intent on helping one another out, you need to add one another to each others' insurance policies and take the car for a decent run out once in a while rather than pootling around a close. If you don't want to go to that trouble, you're best off leaving the cars where they are and if you've any concerns over their condition after a long period away, get a mobile mechanic to give them a check before you start them.
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 17th Sep 17, 12:49 PM
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    There's old school opinion that you need to run the car for 10 minutes every week or so, this is completely wrong and is probably yet another piece of non-sense taken out of context from breakdown recovery guys trying to simplify technical jargon.

    For a month or so, just need to keep the battery charged up.

    A garage is nice as long as it's not damp.

    A car cover is bad, as this holds damp inside and rots the car.

    Just look at all the brand new cars that sit in fields for months, they don't take any special measures for those.
    Last edited by Strider590; 17-09-2017 at 12:52 PM.
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    • trailingspouse
    • By trailingspouse 17th Sep 17, 1:18 PM
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    So long as your own policy allows you to drive other cars, it's not illegal - but you would only be covered for third party risks, not for any damage you might do to the car itself. Still seems a bit of an odd idea though.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 17th Sep 17, 1:27 PM
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    So long as your own policy allows you to drive other cars, it's not illegal - but you would only be covered for third party risks, not for any damage you might do to the car itself. Still seems a bit of an odd idea though.
    Originally posted by trailingspouse
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 17th Sep 17, 2:25 PM
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    So long as your own policy allows you to drive other cars, it's not illegal
    Originally posted by trailingspouse

    And you have to be careful, because most fully comp policies now exclude TPFT cover when using other peoples cars.
    This was introduced to stop young drivers insuring puny little cars and then driving around in daddies GTI.
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    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 17th Sep 17, 5:16 PM
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    Come on, to be fair we don't know how this close looks.

    It may be private and gated, and cover several miles of sealed road allowing a good run for each car.

    Unlikely though.
    • mark1959
    • By mark1959 17th Sep 17, 7:54 PM
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    We've left 2 cars for 4 months in our end of summer/autumn. The first, a newish mini in the garage, no problems . The second, an oldish ford focus,outside on the drive,rusted brake discs and a flat battery.
    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 17th Sep 17, 10:09 PM
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    I'm a bit concerned because autumn and winter is approaching,,,i only plan to use the car at the weekends due to myself breaking the speeding laws as documented heavily on another thread...are there any extra precautions to take to preserve the car in the cold months ahead ?
    • Wig
    • By Wig 17th Sep 17, 10:40 PM
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    I agree with hand brake left off, if at all possible, leave it in gear. After having so many handbrake stuck on I always leave them off if laying the car up for a while.

    If it is an old battery (10 years old) battery may go flat, if relatively new, 5 years or less, it should be ok.

    If it is an old car and left outside, and the weather is cold and wet, it may go mouldy inside, but within a month probably not unless the car has gotten cold and mouldy before. To stop mould...wipe the steering wheel and gear change leaver & handbrake covers with tea tree oil and anywhere else you want to...like dash, door cards.
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    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 17th Sep 17, 10:52 PM
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    You might need to mow the grass if it starts sprouting from the carpet.
    • jimjames
    • By jimjames 18th Sep 17, 1:45 PM
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    Are you sure you have the right thread?
    Originally posted by Gloomendoom
    Seems exactly the right thread and I was going to post the same thing.

    And you have to be careful, because most fully comp policies now exclude TPFT cover when using other peoples cars.
    This was introduced to stop young drivers insuring puny little cars and then driving around in daddies GTI.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Maybe if you're a young driver then it's excluded but all my recent policies including my 2 current ones both have TP cover for other cars.
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    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 18th Sep 17, 8:21 PM
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    I'm a bit concerned because autumn and winter is approaching,,,i only plan to use the car at the weekends due to myself breaking the speeding laws as documented heavily on another thread...are there any extra precautions to take to preserve the car in the cold months ahead ?
    Originally posted by Habib2342
    Habib is it garaged? Or left outside? What car is it?
    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 18th Sep 17, 8:36 PM
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    Its left outside my flat in open air parking and is the following ;

    Renault Megane
    Hatchback (2006 - 2009) MK 2 Facelift 1.6 VVT Dynamique 3dr
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 18th Sep 17, 8:40 PM
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    Its left outside my flat in open air parking and is the following ;

    Renault Megane
    Hatchback (2006 - 2009) MK 2 Facelift 1.6 VVT Dynamique 3dr
    Originally posted by Habib2342
    Oh I assumed it was a weekend summer only car like a Caterham or something lol

    Just disconnect the battery and lock it up dude.
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