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    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 16th Sep 17, 9:01 PM
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    Thinking Thailand - Where should I start.
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    Thinking Thailand - Where should I start. 16th Sep 17 at 9:01 PM
    Hello Everyone

    Thinking of going Thailand as late honeymoon in Feb/March.

    I think we would like to do a a few days in Bangkok (or any vibesy city) then a few days by the beach.

    Where/what should I start 1st in terms of research.

    Probably have a budget of £1200 per person. We are not really the backpacking type - nice hotel is more our style. Probably staying for around 7-10 days.

    Thanks in advance
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    • WAYT
    • By WAYT 25th Sep 17, 11:29 PM
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    Is the Centara karon a good choice then? as in quite central? Reviews seem good on Trip Advisor. Also any hotel i'm looking at will look to see if I can use any 10% off vouchers bringing the price down abit when im ready to book.

    this chiang mai is also looking appealing...the more research im doing the more i see that Thailand isnt just Bangkok & Phuket...:
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    Central to what? It's an island. You need to decide what you want from your holiday. Someone might chose to stay in Phuket Town and fan out from there. Some might want to stay near the main tourist location of Patong. Some will prefer Kata or Karon or a quiet beach or cove. Having a car allows you to explore.
    That's the whole point of sorting your flights(framework) and then filling in the spaces with your own personality.
    We just hopefully prevent you from making any big mistakes.

    So if you want to fit Chang Mai in, then stick with the THAI flights, adjusting the dates so that you add one or two days extra to your stay in BKK.
    That way you can take a side trip to CNX.

    Example:



    or


    Of course you can adjust the BKK to HKT flight to earlier in the day and book the CNX to BKK to fit.

    For example;



    So the whole thing only adds £120 to the cost of the trip.
    • PompeyPete
    • By PompeyPete 26th Sep 17, 4:06 AM
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    Is the Centara karon a good choice then? as in quite central? Reviews seem good on Trip Advisor. Also any hotel i'm looking at will look to see if I can use any 10% off vouchers bringing the price down abit when im ready to book.

    this chiang mai is also looking appealing...the more research im doing the more i see that Thailand isnt just Bangkok & Phuket...:
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    Spot on with that bit of thinking.

    Unless you fall in love with Bangkok quickly, and know how you're going to allocate your time, then the city will soon get in your face and you'll be itching to leave. I tolerate it for a couple of nights, and only really use Bangkok as a Gateway to SE Asia as there are plenty of flight options [but you know that]. We stay in Banglamphu close to the river, and pay no more than £50 a night for a comfortable hotel sat right on the river, with swimming pool and buffet breakfast included. Most of the time is spent outside of the hotel, so there's no need to spend a fortune for fancy table cloths and facilities you won't use.

    Phuket is also a marmite destination. While it's an island, you don't need to travel by water to get either on or off it, as there's a causeway linking the mainland. Instead of being drawn in to Phuket when you land at the Airport, you could go north a bit up the Andaman coast and stay in one of the Khao Lak Resorts. Khao Lak is very popular, best to stay close to one of the two townships of Bang La On, or Bang Niang, both an hour north by taxi from Phuket Airport.

    There's also a pleasant small town 5 minutes from the Airport called Nai Yang. It's got a beautiful beach and is quite low-key compared with Paton and Karon.

    Most of Chiang Mai's attractions are out of town, so you need to plan what to see. Traffic is very busy, almost a smaller version of Bangkok. Personally, I'd have chosen Kanchanaburi for a side-trip from Bangkok...

    https://www.seat61.com/Bridge-on-the-River-Kwai.htm

    Kanchanaburi is a beautiful area, with plenty of culture and history, especially WWII history.

    I think that too long has been spent on trying to convince you which flights to get, rather than concentrating on where to go, and what to do.

    I'm off to Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina in an hour, so no more input from me......happy planning.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 26th Sep 17, 10:14 AM
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    the more research im doing the more i see that Thailand isnt just Bangkok & Phuket...:
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    definitely. I'd say this applies to every country that some of the best places are the less well known ones, but especially so in Thailand.
    I love Bangkok its an interesting city so definitely recommend going there, but I wouldn't recommend the bigger more popular resorts, I would go to the up and coming ones.
    • AlSto
    • By AlSto 26th Sep 17, 3:07 PM
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    Spot on with that bit of thinking.

    Unless you fall in love with Bangkok quickly, and know how you're going to allocate your time, then the city will soon get in your face and you'll be itching to leave. I tolerate it for a couple of nights, and only really use Bangkok as a Gateway to SE Asia as there are plenty of flight options [but you know that]. We stay in Banglamphu close to the river, and pay no more than £50 a night for a comfortable hotel sat right on the river, with swimming pool and buffet breakfast included. Most of the time is spent outside of the hotel, so there's no need to spend a fortune for fancy table cloths and facilities you won't use.

    Phuket is also a marmite destination. While it's an island, you don't need to travel by water to get either on or off it, as there's a causeway linking the mainland. Instead of being drawn in to Phuket when you land at the Airport, you could go north a bit up the Andaman coast and stay in one of the Khao Lak Resorts. Khao Lak is very popular, best to stay close to one of the two townships of Bang La On, or Bang Niang, both an hour north by taxi from Phuket Airport.

    There's also a pleasant small town 5 minutes from the Airport called Nai Yang. It's got a beautiful beach and is quite low-key compared with Paton and Karon.

    Most of Chiang Mai's attractions are out of town, so you need to plan what to see. Traffic is very busy, almost a smaller version of Bangkok. Personally, I'd have chosen Kanchanaburi for a side-trip from Bangkok...

    seat61.com/Bridge-on-the-River-Kwai.htm

    Kanchanaburi is a beautiful area, with plenty of culture and history, especially WWII history.

    I think that too long has been spent on trying to convince you which flights to get, rather than concentrating on where to go, and what to do.

    I'm off to Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina in an hour, so no more input from me......happy planning.
    Originally posted by PompeyPete
    It's a honeymoon! All the more reason to have beautiful and comfortable accommodation.

    Some people might set their sights a bit higher than a glorified guest house that's not that cheap anyway, if you refer to the New Siam Riverside
    £60 per night for a river view double room with a tiny shower seems a bit much.
    Honeymoon, I want Jacuzzi and champagne. I'd use the facilities just because they are there. Not some place just for sleeping.
    Then there is the lack of convenient transport. Good for river travel, but no connection to the BTS or MRT.

    I agree with the finding of your own special places, but how would they know what they like until they find it?
    So it seems a good idea to settle the flights around the main places and then build an itinerary around that, according to what is left in the budget.
    Five or six nights allocated to Bangkok allows for excursions to other places, such as Ayutthaya, Kanchanaburi, Chiang Mai.... Once decided, they can book the accommodation around that.
    A layered approach. Though perhaps trying to fit too much in.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 26th Sep 17, 4:34 PM
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    I agree with the finding of your own special places, but how would they know what they like until they find it?
    Originally posted by AlSto
    I think what was meant (certainly by me) wasn't to go off blazing a trail to unknown places, just steering clear of the over-touristy ones.
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 7th Oct 17, 4:34 PM
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    Me again

    so after much ooohing & aaaarhing....I have booked the flights...4 nights in Bangkok 6 nights in Phuket. booked with thai airlines. price jumped up by £50 in total but I just didnt want to risk them going up anymore

    so now I can just take my time & look for good hotel & deals.

    thanks for your guidance guys...
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 7th Oct 17, 7:53 PM
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    Remember that Phuket is a large island so don't think you have to go to the pain Patong beach which is just about the busiest and most expensive area in Thailand. The Karon and Kata beaches are cheaper and quieter while being close enough to Patong so you can visit to see what the fuss is about.
    • lovesgshp
    • By lovesgshp 7th Oct 17, 8:35 PM
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    To be honest, I would just land in Phuket and then get off the island as soon as possible. It is a real rip off place as wife's son has lived there for about 14 years now and usually gives us updates every week or so.
    Lots of Chinese there now who have replaced the Russians, so the themes are being changed to cater for them.
    Better to just hire a car and drive off the island to probably Khao Lak, or cheap flight to Chiang Mai and then to Chiang Rai which is far better.
    As Manuel says in Fawlty Towers: " I Know Nothing"
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 8th Oct 17, 9:23 AM
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    To be honest, I would just land in Phuket and then get off the island as soon as possible. It is a real rip off place as wife's son has lived there for about 14 years now and usually gives us updates every week or so.
    Lots of Chinese there now who have replaced the Russians, so the themes are being changed to cater for them.
    Better to just hire a car and drive off the island to probably Khao Lak, or cheap flight to Chiang Mai and then to Chiang Rai which is far better.
    Originally posted by lovesgshp
    Not many beaches in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai though, if that's what you are looking for. Agree that there are some nice parts of Khao Lak which are which are within a reasonable transfer time to Phuket. Stopping on Phuket itself might be a better idea if you want to use it as a base for day trips to the smaller islands.

    Some ideas here: http://www.phuket.com/island/beaches.htm

    There has certainly been a huge increase in Chinese visitors across SE Asia. They tend not to cause as much trouble as the Russians as they travel in big organised groups rather than independently as most Europeans do, stop in the big resort hotels and don't use the local bars and restaurants as much.
    • dacouch
    • By dacouch 8th Oct 17, 5:47 PM
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    Thomsons have return flights to Phuket for October and November for £283

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/london-to-thailand-for-283pp-return-thomson-2807911
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 8th Oct 17, 7:24 PM
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    Some ideas here: http://www.phuket.com/island/beaches.htm

    There has certainly been a huge increase in Chinese visitors across SE Asia. They tend not to cause as much trouble as the Russians as they travel in big organised groups rather than independently as most Europeans do, stop in the big resort hotels and don't use the local bars and restaurants as much.
    Originally posted by Doshwaster
    Great link there - thank you..

    Just a question - why should I not use local bars andd restaurants?
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 8th Oct 17, 7:25 PM
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    Thomsons have return flights to Phuket for October and November for £283

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/london-to-thailand-for-283pp-return-thomson-2807911
    Originally posted by dacouch
    Yes I saw these...only wish I could go then instead!
    • AlwaysHere
    • By AlwaysHere 8th Oct 17, 10:58 PM
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    Yes I saw these...only wish I could go then instead!
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    No you don't. The weather is crap at this time and it costs £32.50 per person to select a seat and £60 per person for 20kg of check in luggage.

    So your £283 flight is actually £343 if you want to put luggage in the hold.
    • AlwaysHere
    • By AlwaysHere 8th Oct 17, 11:20 PM
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    Great link there - thank you..

    Just a question - why should I not use local bars andd restaurants?
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    He meant that the bussed in Chinese tourists don't use local bars and restaurants. They tend to be herded around to specific places. Often to be seen following a flag carrying tour leader..
    October/November

    phuket-holiday-guide.com/best_time_to_vist_phuket.html
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 9th Oct 17, 7:57 AM
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    He meant that the bussed in Chinese tourists don't use local bars and restaurants. They tend to be herded around to specific places. Often to be seen following a flag carrying tour leader..
    Originally posted by AlwaysHere
    Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry, if my grammar wasn't clear.
    • PompeyPete
    • By PompeyPete 9th Oct 17, 8:53 PM
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    Just a question - why should I not use local bars and restaurants?
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    That tickled me.
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