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    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 16th Sep 17, 9:01 PM
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    Thinking Thailand - Where should I start.
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    Thinking Thailand - Where should I start. 16th Sep 17 at 9:01 PM
    Hello Everyone

    Thinking of going Thailand as late honeymoon in Feb/March.

    I think we would like to do a a few days in Bangkok (or any vibesy city) then a few days by the beach.

    Where/what should I start 1st in terms of research.

    Probably have a budget of £1200 per person. We are not really the backpacking type - nice hotel is more our style. Probably staying for around 7-10 days.

    Thanks in advance
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    • sarah69696pink
    • By sarah69696pink 16th Sep 17, 10:13 PM
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    You won't regret it! Thailand is my absolute favourite place. We did part of our honeymoon there too.
    There are many on here a lot more knowledgable than me (who have helped me plan in the past).
    Personally I LOVE Bangkok so I always start and end there, but I know that isn't for everyone. As you're only there 7-10 days and it sounds like you want more of a beach holiday go South after BKK either over to Phuket & Krabi area or over to Ko Samui, Koh Phangan & Koh Tao. I've been to both sides. Personally Koh Phangan was my favourite of everywhere we went, but will depend on what you're interested in. I think I preferred this because of where we stayed, quite remote lovely area - whereas in some other places we stayed in more touristy areas which I wouldn't do again.

    You can book internal flights really cheaply, which is probably best given you're short on time. However we've also caught sleeper trains which are fun.
    You can stay in some really nice hotels for a reasonable amount of money compared to UK, but your best bet is probably working out a rough itinerary first, then booking your flights.
    • WAYT
    • By WAYT 16th Sep 17, 11:14 PM
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    Flight?

    The airline(direct) with the cheapest cancellation charge is EVA. £75 with it's cheapest ticket. THAI charges £225 and BA is likely non refundable.

    Of course not an issue if you are sure you won't need to change dates or to cancel, but worth bearing in mind.
    Also keep in mind that to obtain the aforementioned fare conditions, you'll need to book direct with the airline, not via a travel agent.
    So bank on around £500 for EVA and £540 with THAI for your dates, at the moment. BA somewhere in the middle, but non refundable.
    • vegasvisitor
    • By vegasvisitor 17th Sep 17, 4:18 AM
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    We have been a few times, but have not travelled to the beaches mentioned. We have only done the beaches which can be reached by road from Bangkok - Hua Hin and Pattaya. Hua Hin is quite nice, Pattaya less so. Our hotel in Pattaya was fantastic though, one of my favourites I've ever stayed in (Dusit Thani). It's probably better to consider the other beaches if you have time to fly.

    As for Bangkok, there is a range of different accommodation and areas to consider. We have stayed centrally, and also at the river, and have enjoyed both. The hotel we stayed at centrally was a gem, it was actually really quiet, yet it was near Nana and Asok metro stations. Four Points by Sheraton if you're looking for options. Other hotels we have stayed at are Chatrium Riverside and Anantara Riverside (both very nice too).
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 17th Sep 17, 8:08 AM
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    It all depends on your ages and what you want from a honeymoon - 5* luxury and relaxation or adventure and partying. Thailand has something for all tastes and budgets.

    I would say that 10 days is an absolute minimum for a trip to Thailand and 14 is better. If you just go for a week then you lose a day each way travelling which doesn't leave enough time for a few days in Bangkok plus a beach visit. The last thing you want on a honeymoon is to be rushing around and not get the time to relax.
    • PompeyPete
    • By PompeyPete 17th Sep 17, 8:32 AM
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    I agree with Doshwaster.
    • WAYT
    • By WAYT 17th Sep 17, 1:26 PM
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    I imagine that the budget might be a restricting factor. If the £1200 per person includes flights, that leaves £1400 for accommodation food, entertainment and internal travel.

    Spreading that over fourteen days is certainly possible if they keep to a suitable budget.
    In addition, they can probably save another £200 between them by taking indirect non refundable flight.
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 18th Sep 17, 3:02 PM
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    It all depends on your ages and what you want from a honeymoon - 5* luxury and relaxation or adventure and partying. Thailand has something for all tastes and budgets.

    I would say that 10 days is an absolute minimum for a trip to Thailand and 14 is better. If you just go for a week then you lose a day each way travelling which doesn't leave enough time for a few days in Bangkok plus a beach visit. The last thing you want on a honeymoon is to be rushing around and not get the time to relax.
    Originally posted by Doshwaster
    We are young mid 40's and want a bit of relaxation and culture - I do love a party but my husband doesn't so cant see much of that going on - open to some nice little bars though.

    we cant do 14 day unfortunately - will go for 10-11 days.
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 18th Sep 17, 3:07 PM
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    I imagine that the budget might be a restricting factor. If the £1200 per person includes flights, that leaves £1400 for accommodation food, entertainment and internal travel.

    Spreading that over fourteen days is certainly possible if they keep to a suitable budget.
    In addition, they can probably save another £200 between them by taking indirect non refundable flight.
    Originally posted by WAYT
    Thank you. The £1200 is probably for flight & accomadation only. Then say a separate £500 for spends. I have seen flight and hotels deals for less than £1000 but then this is to stay in just the one place when I really want to try 2 places. Think did look at multi centre trips but as most of you guys are saying these are based mostly on 14 nights & longer.
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 18th Sep 17, 4:56 PM
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    We are young mid 40's and want a bit of relaxation and culture - I do love a party but my husband doesn't so cant see much of that going on - open to some nice little bars though.

    we cant do 14 day unfortunately - will go for 10-11 days.
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    Thank you. The £1200 is probably for flight & accomadation only. Then say a separate £500 for spends. I have seen flight and hotels deals for less than £1000 but then this is to stay in just the one place when I really want to try 2 places. Think did look at multi centre trips but as most of you guys are saying these are based mostly on 14 nights & longer.
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35
    Forget the multi-city package trips as these will limit your choices of destination, schedule and hotels as well as cost more. Thailand is very easy to travel around independently. I would just book your return flights to Bangkok and then sort out the rest yourself. Lots of cheap flights available from Bangkok with the likes of Air Asia (though just be warned that they use Don Muang rather than the main Suvarnabhumi airport) or the full service Bangkok Airways which uses the main airport.

    For 11-12 days you could possibly do
    2 days/3 night Bangkok
    6-7 nights somewhere like Krabi (I love Ao Nang)
    1 night back in Bangkok before the flight home.

    Don't try to book a same day internal flight before your return home especially if you need to change airports in Bangkok.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 19th Sep 17, 8:50 AM
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    Some great points already made.

    Since you can't do 14 days, it's important to pick flights that can maximise your time in Thailand, pick the overnight flights each way if you can.

    Btw Eva sometimes have great deals through agents such as Trailfinders.

    Where in the UK are you?
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
    • WAYT
    • By WAYT 19th Sep 17, 9:01 AM
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    Thank you. The £1200 is probably for flight & accomadation only. Then say a separate £500 for spends. I have seen flight and hotels deals for less than £1000 but then this is to stay in just the one place when I really want to try 2 places. Think did look at multi centre trips but as most of you guys are saying these are based mostly on 14 nights & longer.
    Originally posted by moneysavvy35

    In this case you will do fine. £1400 for accommodation and internal flights will do nicely. £70 per night for accommodation is a good benchmark. Leaving you with £700 for insurance, internal travel and incidentals.
    You'll be arriving just after Chinese New Year. So forward planning is a good idea.
    Staying close to the river is a good idea for when it comes to Bangkok and travelling along the river the best way to visit the sites.

    Examples of an excellent location, next to the river and overhead transit at different price points;

    https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/19478863
    https://www.centrepoint.com/silom Of course much cheaper via Trivago and the like.
    http://www.shangri-la.com/bangkok/shangrila/

    All three in the same area. Walking distance to the 15 baht river taxi pier(Sathorn) or BTS SkyTrain station(Saphan Taksin). http://www.chaophrayaexpressboat.com/en/home/
    http://www.transitbangkok.com/images/BTS_MRT_Chao_Phraya_Express_Khlong.png (Useful map of all of the main public transportation systems)

    Personally, I would go for the least expensive option in order to use the money saved, on breakfast, at/on The Verandah at the nearby Mandarin Oriental https://www.mandarinoriental.com/bangkok/chao-phraya-river/fine-dining/restaurants/international-cuisine/the-verandah and perhaps drinks at the Sky Bar at Lebua; http://www.lebua.com/sky-bar or dinner at Sirocco. http://www.lebua.com/sirocco
    If Lebua is too expensive, then perhaps the Moon Bar and/or Vertigo at the Banyan Tree; http://www.banyantree.com/en/ap-thailand-bangkok/vertigo-and-moon-bar

    Save on the one hand so that you can splurge with the other.
    • ruperts
    • By ruperts 19th Sep 17, 9:47 AM
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    Another recommendation for doing it independently here.

    Definitely stretch the duration as far as you can take it because the door to door it's a long trip and you'll likely need a bit of recovery time on arrival.

    It's hard to recommend places, especially beaches because there are so many and such a huge variety of options. We've enjoyed Ko Samet (which you can get to by road and ferry in a few hours from Bangkok), Ko Lanta, Phi Phi, the quieter parts of Phuket and Ko Pha Ngan. Didn't really like Ko Samui, Pattaya, Hua Hin but it's all personal preference. Our favourite place is the north, but you probably won't have time to get there.
    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 19th Sep 17, 10:37 AM
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    I think some of the Middle East airlines, like Qatar, Emirates, etihad etc, will do flights in and out of Phuket as well.

    So there might be the option to fly into Bangkok, travel down to the beaches, by flights, train, bus etc and then fly out without having to backtrack.

    The reverse is also possible too of course.
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 19th Sep 17, 11:00 AM
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    I think some of the Middle East airlines, like Qatar, Emirates, etihad etc, will do flights in and out of Phuket as well.

    So there might be the option to fly into Bangkok, travel down to the beaches, by flights, train, bus etc and then fly out without having to backtrack.

    The reverse is also possible too of course.
    Originally posted by bigadaj
    Emirates is an especially good choice if you are close to a regional UK airport so you can avoid having to travel to London.

    You could do UK -> Bangkok and then Phuket -> UK as an open jaw. Maybe fly down to Krabi, spend a few days there and take the boat to Phuket via Phi Phi - though that might be too tight for your schedule.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 19th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
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    Make sure you do your research on the resorts as they tend to get overdeveloped and spoilt. My knowledge is well out of date but Pattaya is known as an absolute dump and some other places that were once paradise may not be any more...
    • PompeyPete
    • By PompeyPete 19th Sep 17, 2:37 PM
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    For your beach time, why not try and avoid the main touristy places? We are regular visitors to Thailand, and while we aren't beach people we decided to have a week down the Gulf Coast at Prachuap Khiri Khan...

    https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Prachuap_Khiri_Khan

    We went there in March a couple of years ago and had a great time. We were lucky to hit the place for their Spring Festival, which is basically held at the same week every year, and lasts all week...

    http://www.tatnews.org/event/prachuap-khiri-khan-tourism-festival-red-cross-fair-2017/

    We stayed at the Golden Beach Hotel, family run, sublime views from all of the rooms which have floor to ceiling panoramic windows, excellent vfm, and only a short walk north from the centre of town...

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g1825963-d2490308-Reviews-Golden_Beach_Hotel-Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Province.h tml

    We got around on hired push-bikes.

    There's an amazing beach v.closeby called Ao Maneo...

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g1825963-d2665205-Reviews-Ao_Manao-Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Province.h tml

    ...which is just on the southern edge of town. It's inside the Wing 5 Thai Royal Air Force Base which is a unique location. All you need to get inside is some ID, you sign in and out at the Main Gate. You even have to cycle across the Airfield Runway to get to the beach, so make sure you've got a green light. If you don't want to hire a pushbike, a tuk tuk will take you all the way to the beach.

    There's a food court opposite the beach, and they deliver to your sunbed. You can hire sunbeds for about 10 baht, and there's plenty of shade if you need it. The beach is in a very picturesque bay, and is great for swimming.

    The best time to visit Ao Maneo is Monday to Thursday, as like a lot of popular places it gets invaded by Bangkok weekenders from Friday to Sunday.

    It's easy to reach Prachuap Khiri Khan by train from Bangkok's main station called Hualamphong. There's several trains a day, the best one is Train 43. The train leaves Hualamphong at 0805, and arrives at Prachuap Khiri Khan at 1230. The fare's about 450 baht and includes a meal and soft drink. Best to book in advance as that train only has 2 carriages. How to book tickets...

    http://www.train36.com/train-from-bangkok-to-prachuap-khiri-khan.html

    Getting to Hualamphong train station is easy. It's at the end of the Underground Line [MRT], which links up with the Skytrain [BTS].
    • KittenChops
    • By KittenChops 19th Sep 17, 2:39 PM
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    Check out Koh Lanta... you'd probably fly down from Bangkok (although probably not from Suvarnabhumi which is where your international flights will be in / out of, but from Don Muang, as someone else mentioned earlier) to Krabi and then take a ferry across to the island - easy to organise when you arrive at Krabi airport.

    Personally, I'd avoid Pattaya and Phuket Town.

    As far as hotels and attractions go, TripAvisor is brilliant for checking them out. Ignore any overly positive or negative reviews from people who have only left one or two reviews on the site. If you visit any animal attractions, remember that this is Asia; sadly a lot of places leave a lot to be desired in terms of animal well being - again, TripAdvisor will be your friend.

    We visited the night safari in Chang Mai, thinking it was affiliated with Chang Mai zoo - it wasn't and we left quickly, hating ourselves for having given money to somewhere like that :-(


    ETA - when booking island accommodation, sometimes the clue is in the name. On my first visit to Koh Phangan, we booked somewhere thinking it had a lovely sandy beach which was called something along the lines of 'Sea View' - with hindsight we should have booked something with the word 'beach' in the name!
    Last edited by KittenChops; 19-09-2017 at 2:44 PM. Reason: extra info
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 19th Sep 17, 9:33 PM
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    Where in the UK are you?
    Originally posted by richardw
    Im in london - happy to travel to other airports not to far out if I can get the flight cheaper.

    I think some of the Middle East airlines, like Qatar, Emirates, etihad etc, will do flights in and out of Phuket as well.

    So there might be the option to fly into Bangkok, travel down to the beaches, by flights, train, bus etc and then fly out without having to backtrack.

    The reverse is also possible too of course.
    Originally posted by bigadaj
    yes this sounds like a good idea also

    For your beach time, why not try and avoid the main touristy places?

    We stayed at the Golden Beach Hotel, family run, sublime views from all of the rooms which have floor to ceiling panoramic windows, excellent vfm, and only a short walk north from the centre of town...

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g1825963-d2490308-Reviews-Golden_Beach_Hotel-Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Province.h tml

    We got around on hired push-bikes.

    There's an amazing beach v.closeby called Ao Maneo...

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g1825963-d2665205-Reviews-Ao_Manao-Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Prachuap_Khiri_Khan_Province.h tml


    There's a food court opposite the beach, and they deliver to your sunbed. You can hire sunbeds for about 10 baht, and there's plenty of shade if you need it. The beach is in a very picturesque bay, and is great for swimming.

    The best time to visit Ao Maneo is Monday to Thursday, as like a lot of popular places it gets invaded by Bangkok weekenders from Friday to Sunday.

    It's easy to reach Prachuap Khiri Khan by train from Bangkok's main station called Hualamphong. There's several trains a day, the best one is Train 43. The train leaves Hualamphong at 0805, and arrives at Prachuap Khiri Khan at 1230. The fare's about 450 baht and includes a meal and soft drink. Best to book in advance as that train only has 2 carriages. How to book tickets...

    http://www.train36.com/train-from-bangkok-to-prachuap-khiri-khan.html

    Getting to Hualamphong train station is easy. It's at the end of the Underground Line [MRT], which links up with the Skytrain [BTS].
    Originally posted by PompeyPete
    as this will be our 1st time to a place like this I think I would prefer to stick to the tourist bits..I know im being a woss but i dont know if im ready to venture outside these parameters....i'm becoming more open though as the whole place sounds amazing.

    Thanks so much, got a lot of research to do...gonna start playing around with dates.

    Which has more cultural things to do in terms of beaches of thailand & central bangkok?
    • moneysavvy35
    • By moneysavvy35 19th Sep 17, 9:57 PM
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    Just done a dummy run on opodo £536 with Thai Airways - this is just a quick search I will be looking at all kinds of options...what do you think about this on price though?

    LHR 11:50 - 11h 25m DIRECT 26/02
    06:15 +1 BKK
    Bangkok

    BKK 22:40 - 23:59 HKT 02/03
    Phuket

    HKT 21:25 08/03
    Phuket
    15h 55m
    1 STOP
    06:20 +1 LHR
    London
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