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    • drifter17a
    • By drifter17a 16th Sep 17, 7:07 PM
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    Car trailer
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    • 16th Sep 17, 7:07 PM
    Car trailer 16th Sep 17 at 7:07 PM
    Evening all,

    I am in a bit of dilemma as to whether buy a trailer or hire one

    What i hate about renting one is travel 30 miles to pick it up and another 30 miles to drop itnoff

    In addition they make a note of the trailer condition sort of like car hire and you are liable for any damage. Most trailers can get scratched on the track etc

    I have never rented one and used a friends trailer but he no longer has it.


    Re hire is my statement above correct?

    Now buying one, it is not cheap. I rather get a reputable brand like brian james .

    I spoke to gttrailers which is closest to me and they mentioned ifor williams is cheap and BJ is the best one out there.

    I will need a C4 with extended ramp which is circa 2.8k .


    Even better it is A4 with sliding ramp, storage box and many more but at 3.7k

    That is not cheap for a trailer that i might use once a month at best

    So would you pay £70 each time to hire a trailer, go through a hassle of pick off and drop off or just buy one?

    I have also seen some cheap ones on ebay but can't trust them


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    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 16th Sep 17, 7:12 PM
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    How many times a year will you be using it? If you buy one have you got permanent room for it.
    • drifter17a
    • By drifter17a 16th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
    I anticipate 10 times but at 70 each time to rent and be liable for any damag, it could pay fornitself in 2-3 years if I buy a used one or brand new i for williams.

    The bed length on i for william is 4 meters and my car is 4.5 so half meter hanging out which i understand is ok
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 16th Sep 17, 7:44 PM
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    If you've got somewhere to keep it safe, then buying one may work out, but if not then it's a huge target for thieves.
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    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 16th Sep 17, 7:54 PM
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    Up to a metre overhang is OK with no requirement for an extra marker or board.

    Avoiding £600 to £700 a year in rental costs makes sense as trailers keep their value - as long as it doesn't get nicked.

    I've had 2 trailers stolen - one even when locked to the tow vehicle.

    You need a sophisticated hitch lock such as the AL-KO one along with a dummy ball locked in the hole to prevent the scrotes using a hook in the hitch.

    You also need one of the great big ugly yellow lump of metal type clamped to a wheel.
    • patman99
    • By patman99 16th Sep 17, 8:07 PM
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    Second hand ones are ok. You just need to make sure you view it before bidding.

    You need to check the condition of the tyres, brakes, towing hitch etc.

    I work for a trailer manufacturer and we recently had one of our original trailers back as a trade-in. it is still in remarkable condition considering it is 20 years old and has been in and out of the water many times.

    My own trailer is second hand and has seen better days, but is still roadworthy.
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    • drifter17a
    • By drifter17a 16th Sep 17, 8:44 PM
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    Is that brian james?
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 16th Sep 17, 10:56 PM
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    Hiring trailers is a major faff, if you have space to store it, get your own.

    I have a 16' Dastle, means the car doesn't get rained on in transit and I have somewhere in the shade / out of the rain to sit.
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    • Shaka_Zulu
    • By Shaka_Zulu 16th Sep 17, 10:57 PM
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    Ifor Williams trailers (esp. horse trailers) hold their value ridiculously well to such an extent that we reckoned buying new was the better option.

    OP if I were you I would rent in the meantime but keep your eyes peeled for a decent secondhand one. Once you have been looking for a month or so you will have your finger on the pulse of the market and can then decide whether to carry on renting, buy new or buy second hand.

    Just take your time.
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 17th Sep 17, 12:40 AM
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    Call around the rental companies and ask for information about ex-rental trailers for sale. That's how my mate got his. They may need some work, but it will be cheaper than buying new. I have heard it is also cheaper to buy in Europe, but have no actual proof.
    Links:
    http://www.machineryzone.eu/used/1/car-trailer.html

    http://www.trigano-remorques.com/en/

    http://www.europages.co.uk/companies/Germany/Manufacturer%20producer/trailer.html
    Hope that helps!
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    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 17th Sep 17, 7:19 AM
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    Brian James need to get his advertising and marketing sorted out, I never see anything but ifor Williams trailers around.
    • drifter17a
    • By drifter17a 17th Sep 17, 9:05 AM
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    I have seen a second hand one which has some rust on axle, i guess that is standard as all trailers rust, right?

    Or would you stay away?
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 17, 1:57 PM
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    Brian James need to get his advertising and marketing sorted out, I never see anything but ifor Williams trailers around.
    Originally posted by bigadaj
    Depends on what kind of trailer.

    IW seem to have the livestock transporter market sewn up.
    Seems to me that BJ have the car transporter market - which is what the OP seems to be talking about - sewn up.

    There are various continental manufacturers coming in a bit cheaper - there's probably not enough different on a single purchase to be worth self-importing, by the time you've factored the ferry trip in, especially if you're not right on top of the port. How do future parts availability and value sit, though? As has been pointed out, a 10yo BJ car transporter is worth a very high proportion of the new cost, if it's in good nick. And hasn't been nicked. They're one of the biggest scrote-magnets I can think of.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 17th Sep 17, 3:00 PM
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    Factor in the insurance for the trailer then compare the hire costs.
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    • Shaka_Zulu
    • By Shaka_Zulu 17th Sep 17, 3:23 PM
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    Factor in the insurance for the trailer then compare the hire costs.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    Insurance for a trailer?

    Crikey have never had that.
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    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 17th Sep 17, 4:26 PM
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    Any vehicle towing a trailer automatically has 3rd Party only on the trailer.

    And trailers of all types are much cheaper in The Netherlands or Germany.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 17, 4:38 PM
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    And trailers of all types are much cheaper in The Netherlands or Germany.
    Originally posted by Iceweasel
    If I were looking for a small car transporter trailer...?

    Let's say the equivalent of a 3.7m, 1500kg Brian James C2 Blue. £1,610 list here.
    http://brianjames.co.uk/pdf/C2_C4_BLUE_2017_1.pdf
    • drifter17a
    • By drifter17a 17th Sep 17, 4:57 PM
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    That is excluding vat !!

    By the time you add vat it is 2k

    Re insurance i have never heard of that, insurance for what?

    I thought all trailers are insured againt the car anyway
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 17th Sep 17, 5:04 PM
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    That is excluding vat !!

    By the time you add vat it is 2k

    Re insurance i have never heard of that, insurance for what?

    I thought all trailers are insured againt the car anyway
    Originally posted by drifter17a
    While it's coupled to the car you have only 3rd Party cover on it unless you insure the trailer separately.

    So if you damage it, or if it gets nicked - you receive nothing.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 17, 5:13 PM
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    While it's coupled to the car you have only 3rd Party cover on it unless you insure the trailer separately.

    So if you damage it, or if it gets nicked - you receive nothing.
    Originally posted by Iceweasel
    And that's different to the rentatrailer, is it?
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