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    • robrymond
    • By robrymond 16th Sep 17, 1:19 PM
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    Euro Car Parks PCN
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    • 16th Sep 17, 1:19 PM
    Euro Car Parks PCN 16th Sep 17 at 1:19 PM
    I've posted on an existing thread about this, but someone I know has received a Euro Car Parks PCN from 'The Waterfront' in Walsall for not displaying a valid ticket.

    They were unaware of any parking charges upon entering the site and hence they didn't pay. Usually these sites are camera active but with a 'free stay period' (they certainly are in Stoke for example where Euro car parks have ownership).




    The only flaw in the letter I can see is the date and time of the alleged entry and exit which isn't super-imposed on the image.

    I realise how difficult contesting these things are now, I personally have been successful in the past but there seems to have been a great amount of changes in recent years.

    They also don't want to cough up the £100 so the £60 is more tempting. Again it isn't ideal but there is quite a difference between paying £60 now or loosing and paying £100.
    Last edited by robrymond; 17-09-2017 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Removed for editing
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 16th Sep 17, 1:23 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 1:23 PM
    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • robrymond
    • By robrymond 16th Sep 17, 6:38 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 6:38 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 6:38 PM
    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    So this is a given problem with them? Surely they will fix this issue if they keep loosing appeals, doesn't make sense?
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 16th Sep 17, 7:24 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 7:24 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 7:24 PM
    Robrymond, blank out the precise times on that pic of your PCN.

    That is enough to uniquely identify your incident.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 16th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
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    • 16th Sep 17, 10:04 PM
    So this is a given problem with them? Surely they will fix this issue if they keep loosing appeals, doesn't make sense?
    Originally posted by robrymond
    They fixed it in the first letter - that had a flaw from March till June this year, some numpty in their offices thought the 'date issued' was the date of parking event, for a while. But recently, I've noticed that they haven't fixed it in the second letter.

    What makes you think they keep losing appeals? What % of appeals do you reckon are from people on forums? We/you are a rare bunch, and so I doubt that they 'keep losing'. No doubt most appeals are from numpties writing about what happened.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • robrymond
    • By robrymond 17th Sep 17, 12:13 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:13 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 12:13 PM
    What makes you think they keep losing appeals? What % of appeals do you reckon are from people on forums? We/you are a rare bunch, and so I doubt that they 'keep losing'. No doubt most appeals are from numpties writing about what happened.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Just reading around it seems much harder to get a successful appeal from POPLA than it used to be.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 17th Sep 17, 2:05 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 2:05 PM
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    • 17th Sep 17, 2:05 PM
    Not that I've noticed. Very few threads about a lost POPLA appeal are from those we've helped them write.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • robrymond
    • By robrymond 18th Sep 17, 3:29 PM
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    • 18th Sep 17, 3:29 PM
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    • 18th Sep 17, 3:29 PM
    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Do they wait for the 2 weeks and THEN contact Euro Car Parks after the second letter or acknowledge it now and then use the second invoice as evidence to POPLA?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 18th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
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    • 18th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
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    • 18th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
    Wait.

    There is always 28 days to appeal from the first letter, so the second one will arrive in good time.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

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